Australia Fires Part 2

[ovrszd]

Let's try this again. With the intent of mentally or spiritually or simply supporting our fellow TBN members in mind. Jeezzzzz?..

I still want updates from those involved down there in regards to progress.

 

[downsizingnow48]

I’d like to hear from the southern folks what they think about the firefighting operation.

 

[ovrszd]

Me too Pat.

 

[Jstpssng]

On some sites the OP has the ability to delete troll posts. I don't think we want to go down that road but it is tempting at times.

 

[ovrszd]

On some sites the OP has the ability to delete troll posts. I don't think we want to go down that road but it is tempting at times.

No. I don't want the authority to delete anyone's posts. I just want the members here to show respect to our down under friends.

 

[Molalla1]

On some sites the OP has the ability to delete troll posts. I don't think we want to go down that road but it is tempting at times.

No, we do not . . . (I did mention in the first thread not to wander). I too would like to keep updated.

 

[bunyip]

I shall put up the link again for emergency services.
http://emergency.vic.gov.au/respond...7646484375,-35.406960932702&tm=1578865492063#
There was some respite over the weekend with rain and cooler conditions but still a few new fires that were jumped on straight away, the big ones are still ,going and we lost another firefighter to a falling tree, he was in the big fires in East Gippsland but came from one of our neighbouring towns about 30km away.
Almost 0900 here and I just got up after sitting up until 0100 last night sorting a few things out at home, the thick smoke has returned and there is a purple cast over everything and my eyes are watering already, the smell is bad and not good for anyone with asthma or other respiratory conditions, I don't have any but it is quite unpleasant.
The protesters are still carrying on rather than doing something useful, the firefighters are busting their guts and asking nothing in return, modest heroes in my eyes, all giving up work and volunteering their services, I hope the poor bastards* who died get a decent funeral at the Governments expense and not burden their families with an extra liability.
The heat returns today and continues until the weekend, not feeling overly optimistic about the outcomes, with the mix of cool and hot winds there will be a lot of static where they meet in the high country, ergo, dry lightning strikes.

*Bastards, an insult or an affectionate term of endearment depending upon the context in which it is used, I don't think I need to expand upon that.

 

[Jstpssng]

^^^
Thank you for the update. I read that the firefighter you mentioned is the 27th firefighter to die this season. Hopefully he will also be the last.

 

[bunyip]

He was the 4th in Victoria for these fires, I didn't know how many had been lost nationally.
I am not volunteering, would just be a liability now and know it, plenty of good people up for the fight though and asking for nothing, isn't it funny how those that make the most noise seem to do the least.

 

[Molalla1]

I shall put up the link again for emergency services.
http://emergency.vic.gov.au/respond...7646484375,-35.406960932702&tm=1578865492063#
There was some respite over the weekend with rain and cooler conditions but still a few new fires that were jumped on straight away, the big ones are still ,going and we lost another firefighter to a falling tree, he was in the big fires in East Gippsland but came from one of our neighbouring towns about 30km away.
Almost 0900 here and I just got up after sitting up until 0100 last night sorting a few things out at home, the thick smoke has returned and there is a purple cast over everything and my eyes are watering already, the smell is bad and not good for anyone with asthma or other respiratory conditions, I don't have any but it is quite unpleasant.
The protesters are still carrying on rather than doing something useful, the firefighters are busting their guts and asking nothing in return, modest heroes in my eyes, all giving up work and volunteering their services, I hope the poor bastards* who died get a decent funeral at the Governments expense and not burden their families with an extra liability.
The heat returns today and continues until the weekend, not feeling overly optimistic about the outcomes, with the mix of cool and hot winds there will be a lot of static where they meet in the high country, ergo, dry lightning strikes.

*Bastards, an insult or an affectionate term of endearment depending upon the context in which it is used, I don't think I need to expand upon that.

Thank you bunyip for the continuing updates . . .

 

[ovrszd]

He was the 4th in Victoria for these fires, I didn't know how many had been lost nationally.
I am not volunteering, would just be a liability now and know it, plenty of good people up for the fight though and asking for nothing, isn't it funny how those that make the most noise seem to do the least.

I too am an old Soldier. I accept that and understand it. It's a Brotherhood that is stronger than blood relations.

My thoughts and prayers are with you all the way.

 

[bunyip]

Don't know how it works there but we have total fire ban days, the State is split into 5 or 6 sectors and can apply to some or all, a total ban prohibits the use of any open fire, burning off, BBQs, combustion engine machinery such as mowers, brush cutters, chainsaws etc, welders both electric and gas, throw a butt out of the window of your car and get caught expect a hefty fine.
There are exceptions such as powered water pumps for fire fighting, chainsaws in emergencies etc, a few fires have been started (accidentally) by emergency workers but are generally put out fairly quickly, these fires are almost acceptable as you know they were not deliberately started.
Regardless of these bans there is always a fool who will unwittingly start a fire through stupidity rather than malice.

 

[ovrszd]

Don't know how it works there but we have total fire ban days, the State is split into 5 or 6 sectors and can apply to some or all, a total ban prohibits the use of any open fire, burning off, BBQs, combustion engine machinery such as mowers, brush cutters, chainsaws etc, welders both electric and gas, throw a butt out of the window of your car and get caught expect a hefty fine.
There are exceptions such as powered water pumps for fire fighting, chainsaws in emergencies etc, a few fires have been started (accidentally) by emergency workers but are generally put out fairly quickly, these fires are almost acceptable as you know they were not deliberately started.
Regardless of these bans there is always a fool who will unwittingly start a fire through stupidity rather than malice.

Yes. Same here. I don't live in an area that has to suffer thru that very often. Occasionally we are under a total fire ban. But it's only for a few days a year. In my World fires are more than likely started by someone not thinking the process thru.

Fire is an extremely powerful act of nature. It ranks right up there with boiling temperatures and freezing temperatures. All part of living on this planet.

I am saddened that you are struggling thru the aftermath of uncontrolled fires. I can only hope that in the end it's not devastating for you.

For those that do suffer loss, we are supporting them.

I'll come down there if needed, just as you would come up here if needed.

 

[Molalla1]

Yes. Same here. I don't live in an area that has to suffer thru that very often. Occasionally we are under a total fire ban. But it's only for a few days a year. In my World fires are more than likely started by someone not thinking the process thru.

Fire is an extremely powerful act of nature. It ranks right up there with boiling temperatures and freezing temperatures. All part of living on this planet.

I am saddened that you are struggling thru the aftermath of uncontrolled fires. I can only hope that in the end it's not devastating for you.

For those that do suffer loss, we are supporting them.

I'll come down there if needed, just as you would come up here if needed.

Well said Richard . . .

 

[Wagtail]

He was the 4th in Victoria for these fires, I didn't know how many had been lost nationally.
I am not volunteering, would just be a liability now and know it, plenty of good people up for the fight though and asking for nothing, isn't it funny how those that make the most noise seem to do the least.

I'm still 'in' as an Active Reservist (Navy). In November I was asked to submit an EOI to Canberra regarding bushfire support. Last week I received another EOI, asking for more details.

They haven't called yet... I'm 'standing by'.

 

[ovrszd]

I'm still 'in' as an Active Reservist (Navy). In November I was asked to submit an EOI to Canberra regarding bushfire support. Last week I received another EOI, asking for more details.

They haven't called yet... I'm 'standing by'.

I spent 36 years in the Army Reserves. I was repeatedly called into Service. That's what we do.

God Bless you in your service.

 

[radios1]

I haven't seen support from the UK, Elizabeth II reigns as Queen of Australia and I haven't seen any action on these fires by her..

 

[Wagtail]

I haven't seen support from the UK, Elizabeth II reigns as Queen of Australia and I haven't seen any action on these fires by her..

Mate... first off, HM the Queen has sent messages of condolence and support to Australia. So has RHR the Prince of Wales.

The Australian Defence Force has been activated to assist... this can only be done by permission (once requested) by the Governor General [who's an Australian and Her representative = Head of State] {Note: I'm simplifying things, Canadians will understand}

Secondly, support from the UK wouldn't be that much use due to the distance involved and the expertise involved. The 'Commonwealth' are assisting, as are firefighters from the US who have skills to help... as we (Aus) send firefighters to the US to assist during your bushfires.

I hope that this explanation helps.

 

[Wagtail]

I spent 36 years in the Army Reserves. I was repeatedly called into Service. That's what we do.

God Bless you in your service.

Then you truly understand, Mate... Ta.

 

[2LaneCruzer]

Disasters like this often serve to bring people together. I know that after the Murrah bombing, we had volunteers from everywhere come to assist. I remember in particular, the Firefighters from NYC and their rescue dogs. My opinion of NY city was nothing to shout about before that, but seeing them on TV with their rescue efforts brought tears to my eyes; out state and city reciprocated after 9-11. I will always regard them as a sister city with great affection. I'm sure that you will experience something similar. Those events restored my faith in the goodness inherent in humanity. Best wishes for all of Australia, and may God Bless.

Dennis