Axle problem?

[budepps3760]

I noticed that one of my front tires on my Mahindra 2810 has a noticeable toe slant while the other does not. The manual has the following specs listed.

Toe-In (mm) 2~6
Camber 3 degrees +/- 1 degree
Castor 3 degrees +/- 1 degree

Do I have a problem or potential problem? Any thoughts?

 

[George2615]

Looks like you have quite a bit of positive camber on the left front. Needs to get back to specs if its adjustable or it will wear the outside of the tire down.

 

[budepps3760]

Today I tried to work on the toe camber based on these suggestions and video on how to adjust camber but when I started I saw that the axle looked like any video I watched nor had the ability to make any of the adjustments. I took several pictures today and I will try to explain the view being shown. Again I appreciate any suggestions on how to proceed.

This first picture shows the tie rod end.


View of tie rod assembly straight down


tie rod end backside view


view from axle back towards inside of rim


view of axle from front side


I could find no method of adjustment that would allow me to adjust camber on front tire. On the view from axle towards inner portion of rim there are 4 hex bolts. Is there adjustment for camber based on these 4 bolts?

 

[ovrszd]

I doubt it. But I'm not there.

I don't understand why you would suddenly have positive camber??? Everything in that assembly that can wear or break would create negative camber.

Sometimes tractors are built with quite a bit of positive camber. Are you sure the right side isn't the side with a problem?? For example, as I explained above, wear or breakage should create negative camber. Looking at your picture you definitely have more negative camber on the rights side than the left side.....

Understand we are just shooting in the dark here.

Were it me, I'd jack up the front end removing all weight from both sides and see what happens???

 

[ovrszd]

Also, when taking pics, try to get as far away as you can and still see the details. Very closeup pics only confuse everyone. For example when looking at your fourth pic, I have no idea what I'm looking at.

 

[powerscol]

Please pull the tire and rim and check. I'm guessing something has go wrong with the outer hub.

 

[ovrszd]

Please pull the tire and rim and check. I'm guessing something has go wrong with the outer hub.

He'll figure that out real quick when he jacks it up.

 

[budepps3760]

Thanks gentlemen.

 

[budepps3760]

The fourth and fifth pictures unfortunately need to be rotated. The fourth is upside down. The grease cutting should be" top. The camera back was towards the engine shooting back through the hub and looking towards the inside of the front room. I was trying to show the 4 hex bolts on top to see if maybe adjustment of those 4 bolts would allow adjustment of the camber.

 

[Leejohn]

I have a feeling he went and jacked it up and is sick now, it's been almost 2hrs.

 

[budepps3760]

Sadly I am going to have to wait until I can go to the farm again. I live a distance from where my tractor is and so hopefully the wife will allow me to go there after church tomorrow. If not I may sneak up there tonight after she goes to bed tonight. Sadly I do think I will not like what I will find.

 

[budepps3760]

Well I went to the farm this afternoon and jacked up the front axles. When the weight came off the front and the front tires seemed to have the same camber.



Picture of left tire. Originally had severe positive camber.


Picture of right tire. Originally appeared to have zero camber.


Once I removed both tires the axle freely spun by hand. I grabbed the final drive case and twisted and turned and shook and pulled in every conceivable direct to see if there was any play which may explain why the tire would spray outward when the weight was on the front end however both were solid as a rock. Suggestions? Ideas?

 

[dickfoster]

Well I went to the farm this afternoon and jacked up the front axles. When the weight came off the front and the front tires seemed to have the same camber.

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Picture of left tire. Originally had severe positive camber.
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Picture of right tire. Originally appeared to have zero camber.
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Once I removed both tires the axle freely spun by hand. I grabbed the final drive case and twisted and turned and shook and pulled in every conceivable direct to see if there was any play which may explain why the tire would spray outward when the weight was on the front end however both were solid as a rock. Suggestions? Ideas?

If you grab the top and bottom of each tire, then push and shove and get no play, I'd probably drop it to the ground and figure there was just some weird bind or something when you parked it. Pull straight forward and straight back and see if everything still looks OK then.

 

[kencunningham]

To me it looks like the ground isn't level. Park it on a flat level surface, if you have one.

 

[ovrszd]

Hard to tell in pictures. Only the person in the presence of the tractor can confirm a problem or not.