AZ ranch

[boggen]

surprised no "diesel or gas" tank on property yet.

you mentioned propane tank and some generators. there are a few companies that sell after market conversion kits for most generators (all sizes and makes and models). that convert them from regular gas to propane.

if propane is at a descent price for your area. and hauling gas cans back and forth. it might very well be worth it for ya.

as for me, the conversion is on the to do list.

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on another note, plz be careful on handling the water. and let it setting. and suggest keeping on adding chlorine as needed, or adding bleach to water. so stuff does not begin to grow in your water tanks

 

[BoFuller]

surprised no "diesel or gas" tank on property yet.

you mentioned propane tank and some generators. there are a few companies that sell after market conversion kits for most generators (all sizes and makes and models). that convert them from regular gas to propane.

if propane is at a descent price for your area. and hauling gas cans back and forth. it might very well be worth it for ya.

as for me, the conversion is on the to do list.

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on another note, plz be careful on handling the water. and let it setting. and suggest keeping on adding chlorine as needed, or adding bleach to water. so stuff does not begin to grow in your water tanks

I hadn't thought of alternatives for powering the generator. I'm not in a huge hurry for it, since I already have a 1000W and a 5000W one on hand. I'll look around some more.

 

[BoFuller]

I went back up to the ranch after being busy down here in civilization for a month. It was great to have a few days in paradise! I bought a 525 gal water trailer and hauled it up last Thursday. I stopped in Seligman and filled it up and pulled onto the property around 6pm. It took me the next couple hours trying to get the water from the water trailer to the travel trailer. The water trailer sits too low and I couldn't get any water to go into the travel trailer's holding tank. Previously I used a 100 gal tank in the back of my Tacoma. It has 4 inches of lift, so it sits about 2 feet higher than the new water trailer, and I have been alble to rely on gravity for filling the tank in the travel trailer. I ended up going into town in the morning and filling the 100 gal tank. The new water trailer is still sitting there full. Make mental note to self to get a water pump! I hadn't needed it before, so I just didn't think to get one before I went up there. :confused2:

 

[BoFuller]

I also did some more grading and made a permanent connection for the waste water. My wife made a last minute trip to CA to babysit her granddaughters and she took the camera with her. We're going back in a couple days, so I'll get caught up with pictures.

 

[BoFuller]

Oh yeah, I almost forgot. I installed my Quick Attach on my Kubota L3400. When we go back in a couple days, I'll be trailering up my new QA Kubota bucket and the new Gearmore forks. :thumbsup:

 

[tommu56]

I went back up to the ranch after being busy down here in civilization for a month. It was great to have a few days in paradise! I bought a 525 gal water trailer and hauled it up last Thursday. I stopped in Seligman and filled it up and pulled onto the property around 6pm. It took me the next couple hours trying to get the water from the water trailer to the travel trailer. The water trailer sits too low and I couldn't get any water to go into the travel trailer's holding tank. Previously I used a 100 gal tank in the back of my Tacoma. It has 4 inches of lift, so it sits about 2 feet higher than the new water trailer, and I have been alble to rely on gravity for filling the tank in the travel trailer. I ended up going into town in the morning and filling the 100 gal tank. The new water trailer is still sitting there full. Make mental note to self to get a water pump! I hadn't needed it before, so I just didn't think to get one before I went up there. :confused2:

Unhook the pump from your trailer tank and hook it right to the trailer and suck out of that one.

Better yet put a valve on your trailer tank tee in to the line between the pump and new valve put a valve on that 3rd leg and then hook that to your portable tank open both valves and it will back fill to the trailer tank.
Need more water turn off trailer tank and the valve to from the trailer uncouple it and fetch more water.

 

[BoFuller]

Unhook the pump from your trailer tank and hook it right to the trailer and suck out of that one.

Better yet put a valve on your trailer tank tee in to the line between the pump and new valve put a valve on that 3rd leg and then hook that to your portable tank open both valves and it will back fill to the trailer tank.
Need more water turn off trailer tank and the valve to from the trailer uncouple it and fetch more water.

I hadn't thought of that. I'll check it out when I head back up there in a couple days. Thanks!

 

[BoFuller]

Here is my latest toy for the ranch. A 1980 Ford F8000 dumptruck. 10 spd with 2 spd rear end. 3208 CAT engine. Bed is 16 ft X 8 ft and it was rated for 27,500 lbs. I downgraded it at registration to 25,750 so I don't have to get a CDL. I do still need my air brake license/endorsement. I also got farm plates so registration was about $240 a year. She said it would have been $1350/yr for commercial.

 

[BoFuller]

The tires that were on my dump truck were really bad. 3 of the 4 rears were like 1/32, beyond recapping. Since 90% of my driving will be off pavement, I got these monster grip tires.

 

[BoFuller]

surprised no "diesel or gas" tank on property yet.

you mentioned propane tank and some generators. there are a few companies that sell after market conversion kits for most generators (all sizes and makes and models). that convert them from regular gas to propane.

if propane is at a descent price for your area. and hauling gas cans back and forth. it might very well be worth it for ya.

as for me, the conversion is on the to do list.

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on another note, plz be careful on handling the water. and let it setting. and suggest keeping on adding chlorine as needed, or adding bleach to water. so stuff does not begin to grow in your water tanks

Where would I go to see about getting a diesel tank on the ranch? Would that be feasible? With all the regulations now, would I have to get a double-walled tank and have inspections on a regular basis?

 

[BoFuller]

I also installed my QA and then hooked up my new bucket. I got forks too, but forgot to take a picture og them. Next weekend. :thumbsup:

 

[tommu56]

Where would I go to see about getting a diesel tank on the ranch? Would that be feasible? With all the regulations now, would I have to get a double-walled tank and have inspections on a regular basis?

I'd 1 st call a bulk oil delovery guy for proceing and advice then check with the local fire board or the likes of it if necessary.
Around here we can have ~ 575 gallons unless you are a farm use industrial is a real headache with the secondary containment ect.

If there is a problem with a 500 gallon skid tank then.
If you were going to "heat with fuel oil" you could borrow some from the tank (even if it doesn't get hooked to a heater)

some times you have to be creative in your thinking

 

[tommu56]

I hadn't thought of that. I'll check it out when I head back up there in a couple days. Thanks!

inexpensive 3 way valve for your water


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[LoveTheSmellofDiesel]

Oh yeah, here is my garage. I bought the tractor before we closed on the property and needed something for a garage for the tractor, the quad, and tools, so I bought this 40 ft container and had it hauled up there. Works real well. Instant garage. It holds my 12 ft quad trailer, the quad, and my tractor with FEL and back scraper on. If I pull the trailer out, I can get my tractor and my truck (Tacoma) in there.

Great idea. Just finishing up on a remodel, and sure wish I had gotten a 20' container to store things in when I needed to clean out the house for interior work. Water tight, and secure. Thinking about getting one to bury for a root cellar and/or tractor garage... Would love to happen across one vs buying at street prices.

 

[David Ferguson]

The water trailer sits too low and I couldn't get any water to go into the travel trailer's holding tank. Previously I used a 100 gal tank in the back of my Tacoma. It has 4 inches of lift, so it sits about 2 feet higher than the new water trailer, and I have been alble to rely on gravity for filling the tank in the travel trailer.

Perhaps you can use your tractor and dump truck to build up an area next to your travel trailer for parking the water trailer. Just drive it up the hill, then it sits high enough to gravity feed. Another alternative is to get a pump for the trailer -- that may come in handy when you need pressurized water somethere else on the property.

 

[Duffster]

I do still need my air brake license/endorsement.

How did you come to that conclusion?

 

[mjncad]

That Ford truck looks to be in good shape. Makes one heck of a pickup truck.

 

[BoFuller]

How did you come to that conclusion?

Anything with airbrakes requires an air brake license/endorsement is what the MVD told me. Big rig, motorhome, farm truck, whatever.

 

[BoFuller]

Anything with airbrakes requires an air brake license/endorsement is what the MVD told me. Big rig, motorhome, farm truck, whatever.

So now I am totally confused. When I registered my dump truck last week in one town, the MVD said I could "downgrade" it from 27,500 to 25,700 and got farm plates. Then they said I still needed an airbrake license, a DOT #, and a DOT physical, but not a CDL.
So I got a physical yesterday, the DOT #, and went in this morning to take the airbrake test (another town in another county) and they said that it is illegal to downgrade, and that I needed a Class B CDL and that I couldn't take the airbrake test. They also said that farm plates didn't make any difference as to whether you needed a CDL!
Gotta love government agencies. :confused2:
I guess I'll wait until I'm back in the first town and county to proceed.

 

[Dallas_Lilly]

So now I am totally confused. When I registered my dump truck last week in one town, the MVD said I could "downgrade" it from 27,500 to 25,700 and got farm plates. Then they said I still needed an airbrake license, a DOT #, and a DOT physical, but not a CDL.
So I got a physical yesterday, the DOT #, and went in this morning to take the airbrake test (another town in another county) and they said that it is illegal to downgrade, and that I needed a Class B CDL and that I couldn't take the airbrake test. They also said that farm plates didn't make any difference as to whether you needed a CDL!
Gotta love government agencies. :confused2:
I guess I'll wait until I'm back in the first town and county to proceed.

This is straight out of the CDL manual for Arizona:

You must have a CDL to operate:
Any single vehicle with a gross vehicle weight rating
(GVWR) of 26,001 pounds or more.

A combination vehicle with a gross combined weight
rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, if the trailer(s)
has a GVWR of 10,001 or more pounds.

A vehicle designed to transport 16 or more passengers
(including the driver).

Any size vehicle which requires hazardous material
placards or is carrying material listed as a select agent
or toxin in 42 CFR part 73. Federal regulations require a
background records check and fingerprinting through the
Department of Homeland Security when applying for the
Hazardous Materials endorsement.

Vehicles that do not require a CDL to drive but are equipped
with air brakes may be driven by a non-CDL holder.

So you should not need a CDL just because it has air brakes.

I personally have never heard of downgrading a GVWR but that does not mean it doesnt happen.

If I were you I would just take their test and take your truck to take the driving test. Then you are covered no matter what situation, on the highway, on your ranch or anything else. You have a very nice tool there I wouldnt limit myself in how much or where I could haul anything.