Backhoe B3030..Bucket TEETH...or...Backhoe??

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Sully2

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Kubota B3030
The jobs I have in front of me this summer are rooting out small ( grub out) trees..1-2 inches in diameter..but SOME go up to 6 inches in diameter. Those and various "shrub-grubs" that have invaded the back yard.

I understand what a backhoe can do for me..but I never intend on doing any "trench" type of work...ever...but I AM interested in just how much..?..how large..etc of a tree rootbase etc..I can "dig out" using a set of teeth on my FEL bucket. ( I have NO experience using a toothed bucket)

When I run across the occasional "super stump" ( maybe 10 inches or so in diameter and roots less than 2 ft deep) I have a friend with a "chink" ( as he and I refer to it) tractor with a BH..and he has removed the jumbo's for me in the past ( he is only 3 miles away)

Needless to say the difference in COST is appealing also... /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif...but I have no idea if a tooth bar on my FEL is a waste of $$ for me or??
 
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I have tried to remove small shrubs and trees with my toothbar with varied success. The best way is to remove them with the BH. In the spring it is easier to pull them with FEL and a chain. One problem with the toothbar is it is 60" wide. Heck of a large cut to get a shrub out. Since I have a BH I use it to remove shrubs and small trees. Also when a larger tree comes along I can dig out the stump. Get the toothbar and give it try. It is about $300. Then decide if it will do the job. A BH will cost 20 times that. /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif
 
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Sully, I think a backhoe is overkill for small stumps. (but not 10 inchers) Also with the backhoe, you spend a lot of time repositioning the tractor, pods up and down, fiddling with the seat,...

Before buying anything, I would go out with the plain old fel and push them over keeping the fel as low as possible without digging into the dirt. If you can do that and get part of the rootball exposed, a second pass at ground level will probably finish the job.

If that doesn't work, there is the toothbar route, but as the previous poster said, it takes a wide swath. Maybe instead of a whole toothbar, just buy the individual bolt-on teeth and put about 3 of them maybe on 3 inch centers so you can concentrate your curling force and limit the collateral damage.

John
 
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If that doesn't work, there is the toothbar route, but as the previous poster said, it takes a wide swath. Maybe instead of a whole toothbar, just buy the individual bolt-on teeth and put about 3 of them maybe on 3 inch centers so you can concentrate your curling force and limit the collateral damage.

John )</font>

Hmmm? I didnt even know they made such a thing!!!
 
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is it possible to wrap a chain around the small stump, attach the other end to the draw bar, and pull it out? or is that not a good way to do it?
 
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Sure it's possible! (But I would have the number of my local Kubota service center on speed dial!!!).

It would be cheaper in the long run to just have a dozer come out and grub them all out.

jb
 
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Or better yet, give me a call, or someone like me that has a mini-excatavor (mine is Kubota's KX-71). It will do the best job of getting the root ball out and can smooth back over the ground.
 
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</font><font color="blue" class="small">( If you haven't cut them down yet try pushing the smaller trees over first. With a raised FEL up against the tree you have more leverage, and it will often bring the root up with it so it can easily be remover with the FEL. )</font>

Ive done that to some of them so far...but some are so small..they just bend over...and I also have a "ton" of some sort of weedy scrub..and flimsy as all get out.

As far as wrapping a chain and pulling them...try doing that 200-300 times in a day...lol The old legs get tired of climbing back in the saddle.. And also..NO HIRING of someone else..thats why I bought the Kubota to start with... /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

I only had one chance at the weedy shrub stuff before winter set in here..and with the FEL down...I can make a pass thru it "scraping"..??..about 2 inches of soil with them..and they all come out...and are in a pile with the dirt at the end of the pass. Pick them out of the pile of dirt...and then back drag the dirt to its origional position .."seems" to work...and not a bunch of getting on and off involved.

I AM going to look into the bolt on bucket teeth though...it cant hurt??..and may really help in some cases.

The JUMBO's I think I'll just have my friend with his "chink" tractor and BH grub out for me... Its amazing what a bunch of ham and cheese double deckers and a 6-pack of Corona's can get a guy.. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Once all "weed" stuff is gone...everything gets tilled using HIS tiller on the back of my B3030...and then I fire up my rear tine tiller ( walk behind) to "super fine cut" the areas where flower beds are going to be. Water lines and electric wires will be installed using my brand new subsoiler.....and then..plant..plant...plant .

(The wife tells me the weedy shrub is "bush honeysuckle"..???)
 
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Markham Welding has a narrow Bobcat bucket called a "Grubber Bucket" that is designed specifically for that application. Now, that particular loader bucket may be too heavy for your B3030, but a possible option may be for you to see if Allen Markham can build you a custom bucket that will work specifically with your B3030 FEL and the available Kubota or ATI Quick Attach setup. Markham quality is top notch. HERE is the link to the grubber bucket.
 
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WAAAYYY too much "dinero" for this project. I'll pass on the built bucket!
 

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