Backhoe B3030..Bucket TEETH...or...Backhoe??

Highbeam · Feb 9, 2006

The toothbar will allow you to pop those smaller trees and larger bushes right out of the ground with minimal dirt disturbance. You use it like a rake with the 1000 lbs of force behind it and non bendable tines.

Stumping is the hardest duty I know of for a tractor. If you can't get the whole tree out then saw the tree off and get the stump with the neighbors BH some other day.

It's just not worth beating your machine up for.

Sully2 · Feb 9, 2006

( The toothbar will allow you to pop those smaller trees and larger bushes right out of the ground with minimal dirt disturbance. You use it like a rake with the 1000 lbs of force behind it and non bendable tines.

Stumping is the hardest duty I know of for a tractor. If you can't get the whole tree out then saw the tree off and get the stump with the neighbors BH some other day.

It's just not worth beating your machine up for. )

Yepper! Cant be tearing up the toy...

I might have gottn a full toothbar when I bought it..but the dealer cautioned me about trying to dig TOO MUCH using one...telling me that a lot of guys bend the ?? actuators??..or ..??..by putting too much force on the bucket when th arms are extended...sooo. Being a newbie at using this thing I went on the side of caution!! Just a few hours of work though and I find the FEL easy to "control"...so now I might be ready for a tooth bar and just sort of take it easy.

Diesel_Boy · Feb 9, 2006

oh, i thought these were already cut, when i asked about pulling them out. as far as bending things on the FEL when trying to lift something too heavy, would it be easier on the tractor to try lifting with a t-bar on the 3ph, especially if the 3ph has more lifting capacity than the FEL?

john_bud · Feb 9, 2006

Diesel_boy,

You would think that, but... I just spent an enjoyable afternoon with an Ox/Ac torch and an 8 lb sledge getting my 3 pt arm back into shape. It bent while pulling trees to a landing. Side bend was about 3 inches and "up" bend was about 3/4 inch. Kinda surprising when you think how thick that metal is. Only thing more surprising was the price of a replacement! And it had a t-bar on it at the time.

If you are clearing out a lot of bushy stuff, why not cut it with your brush cutter (Woods Brushbull 600 is nice) and then get the roots out with the scarifiers on a box blade (Gannon Landscaper series is good)? Benefit of the box blade is that you can regrade and smooth out the land. I still think a dozer is money well spent, but if you don't have the money, just cut the trees and leave 3-4' of stump. Wait a few years and they should come out easier.

jb

AB4D · Feb 9, 2006

(The wife tells me the weedy shrub is "bush honeysuckle"..???)

If your weed is the same stuff I have here (see photo), a tooth bar works pretty good at ripping it up. I have had tooth bars on both of my tractors, a BX23 and an L3430, and I don't believe that a tooth bar will cause any substantial damage to your tractor, unless of course you try to tackle some really big roots which may try to bend the front of the bucket while the FEL lifts the rear of your tractor off the ground /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif. I would opt for the tooth bar.

Jim

Diesel_Boy · Feb 9, 2006

jb, now you've got me wondering... I got a t-bar with my tractor. just got my tractor delivered a week ago. is a t-bar not made for pulling trees or logs? did your 3ph arms bend while you were dragging the trees, with one end of the tree lifted off the ground by the t-bar? did the bending occur because the tree was just too big, or maybe trying to turn a corner with it? i'd certainly like to know so i can avoid any problems of the same kind. i'm planning on dragging trees out of the woods with one end lifted off the ground with the t-bar. not a lot, but some. thanks for any insight here. i'm new to tractors.

Sully2 · Feb 9, 2006

Both are honeysuckle..but the shrub type looks like "forsythia" ( SP??) and has a more solid stem to it..as compared to the "ground cover" "species".

EDIT: Mine is "Lonicera fragrantissima"...as compared to .."Lonicera heckrottii"...

JustGary · Feb 9, 2006

Interesting. The local extension agent once told me that if I wanted to get rid of honeysuckle, I should just fertilize it. He says the deer will graze it off at ground level.

Some folks plant it here for deer to feed on, and they have to build sturdy trellis enclosures so the deer can't eat it all.

Maybe you're taking the wrong approach...

- Just Gary

Sully2 · Feb 10, 2006

( Interesting. The local extension agent once told me that if I wanted to get rid of honeysuckle, I should just fertilize it. He says the deer will graze it off at ground level.

Some folks plant it here for deer to feed on, and they have to build sturdy trellis enclosures so the deer can't eat it all.

Maybe you're taking the wrong approach...

- Just Gary )

Tell your local extension agent for me that he's FOS...LOL I havent see a single dear eat one single berry off of it in 20 years Ive been here. BIRDS eat the berries..but Im replanting hollys for "winter berrys" anyway.

Between my next door neighbor and I...10 acres..we have 12 wild turkeys..2 does and 3 yearlings that live here and "get fed"..along with all of the crops they eat from surronding farms fields.

Coons..possums..foxes.. groundhogs and striped chipmunks...red squirrels...5 different types of woodpeckers..even the giant pileated..and 15 more types of wild songbirds...the "deer" can stay the heck out of my newly landscaped back yard when Im done....lol