B65 backhoe issues on 2020 models?

[Raines]

I just came across this. Has anyone here heard of this happening or had it happen to them?
https://www.mytractorforum.com/threads/brand-new-gc1723eb-broke-in-10-mins-of-use.1346724/
Edit: I meant CB65 backhoe

 

[cglaser104]

I just came across this. Has anyone here heard of this happening or had it happen to them?
https://www.mytractorforum.com/threads/brand-new-gc1723eb-broke-in-10-mins-of-use.1346724/
Edit: I meant CB65 backhoe

That thread has a few people that were affected. There have been instances of undersized cylinders that were subbed by the backhoe manufacturer that are bending and a separate issues where the backhoe handle linkage is breaking. This seems to affect a very small number of machines that are new models (this model of backhoe is 5+ years old and has been mildly revised a few times). MF is aware of both issues and has taken steps to correct both. This includes returning to the original cylinders for the hoe and redesigning the linkage to endure the stress for the handles.

 

[Raines]

That thread has a few people that were affected. There have been instances of undersized cylinders that were subbed by the backhoe manufacturer that are bending and a separate issues where the backhoe handle linkage is breaking. This seems to affect a very small number of machines that are new models (this model of backhoe is 5+ years old and has been mildly revised a few times). MF is aware of both issues and has taken steps to correct both. This includes returning to the original cylinders for the hoe and redesigning the linkage to endure the stress for the handles.

Ok, well that is good to hear MF is on top of it. Good for them. I think that shows some integrity to fix issues immediately. I have been very impressed with MF on everything I have read and researched about them.

 

[cglaser104]

I have a 2015 GC1710 TLB with the CB65 backhoe and the DL95 loader. I've put up nearly 400 hours with a good 150 of the backhoe work and I have nothing but positive things to say about AGCO/MF/Iseki. It's absolutely on par and in some ways superior to a Kubota BX or John Deere 1 series to me

 

[homesteader13]

Massey IS the Cadillac of tractors, and the premium price comes with it, but hopefully the excelent service does as well. Most of the time it has, from my experience.

 

[cglaser104]

Massey IS the Cadillac of tractors, and the premium price comes with it, but hopefully the excelent service does as well. Most of the time it has, from my experience.

That's odd. Around here, the pricing on a Massey is going the most economical you can get VS a Kubota or JD. I paid $3k less than what JD was charging and about $1k less than Kubota.

 

[Raines]

That's odd. Around here, the pricing on a Massey is going the most economical you can get VS a Kubota or JD. I paid $3k less than what JD was charging and about $1k less than Kubota.

Yeah , my search for a tractor shows john deere and kubota as most expensive and even mahindra sometimes more than a Massey. One of the Massey dealers I visited , which is also a mahindra dealer, told me he quit carrying Mahindra max subcompacts because he couldn't sell any with the gc1700 series out there beside them as the gc1700 series were less expensive.

 

[workinonit]

Around here MF used to be on par with JD and International was right there as well. Over time it has pretty much gone green here. What's funny is some of the tractors that you guys cover on this forum I had never heard of before I joined. You see very few MF tractors here anymore but it's not because of price.

 

[cglaser104]

Around here MF used to be on par with JD and International was right there as well. Over time it has pretty much gone green here. What's funny is some of the tractors that you guys cover on this forum I had never heard of before I joined. You see very few MF tractors here anymore but it's not because of price.

Around here for small tractors is either green or orange which is proportional to the number of dealerships in the area. I live in a suburb of Buffalo, NY where there are JD and Kubota dealers that are easily accessible for people looking for those machines. If you want a more traditional ag name brand like New Holland(also sells Kioti), Massey Ferguson(also sells Gehl, Challenger) or CaseIH (also sells Kubota) you need to head to the sticks. JD and Kubota have done a great job of having a presence in non-farming areas here.

 

[homesteader13]

That's odd. Around here, the pricing on a Massey is going the most economical you can get VS a Kubota or JD. I paid $3k less than what JD was charging and about $1k less than Kubota.

Where is here out of curiosity?
In Nebraska where I bought mine, (to take to my property in NW Montana) a 36 hp kubota was on par with an equivalent Mahindra (both cab tractors) but by best friends dad was an Agco dealer and got me a 42hp deluxe cab tractor ( 2 year old new over stock, but same model year) knocked 8K off the other quotes between discounts and higher trade for my JD than the other two dealers were going to give me.
When it all comes down to it, its all relative. They all have service, repair and warranty issues. Just like, Ford, Dodge, Chevy. Good and bad points to all, but I think we are always impartial to the one we own at the time.

And I agree with the other post about JD and Mahindra marketing to a wider market share to non AG communities, where Massey, Agco, Challenger is still mostly geared towards ag and rural home and acerage owners. I have had a couple 60 and 80hp Mahindra ( made in India, but not taking anything away from them on that) open station tractors that I bought for acerages that I managed and I wont knock them, pound for pound and horsepower they are much less expensive and every bit as tough, just lack a few of the extras and comforts that come standard on some of the 'American ' models.