Back Hoe and possibly cab

[TN8Man]

I have the ck3510H and looking at adding the back hoe. I think the price is going to be ~7-8K as I will also need rear hydraulics. Then there is the thumb option which could add another 2k.

I noticed a used newer ck3510HSE (mine is not the SE model) for sale at a local dealer that already has the back hoe with thumb and it already has the 3rd function with a grapple which mine has for my EA root grapple. The kicker is that this is the cab model, mine isn't. The asking price is $33.5K which seems a bit pricey for a used tractor.

I wasn't looking for a cab but then I never really considered it. Having AC on those hot and humid summer days and some tunes kinda sounds good.

But the question is it worth the extra money and how well do they hold up over time?

Would appreciate some feed back on the cab option and the used tractor price that I mentioned.

The wife would rather I go new and trade in mine. If I did that I would probably go with a bigger tractor like the NX or DK.

 

[finn1]

Once you have a cab, you will likely never go back to an open station tractor. I had a discussion with the dealer re glass breakage when I bought my tractor He told me that the only broken glass they have seen is when operators fail to close the door when moving the tractor and catch the glass door on some stationary object.

I made a conscious effort to close the door every time I move the tractor even a few feet. It becomes second nature after a while to latch the door, so it is a non issue to me.

The other issue s with low hanging branches, but again, the glass cab protects your head and especially your eyes, so I don’t see that as a negative.

 

[TN8Man]

Once you have a cab, you will likely never go back to an open station tractor. I had a discussion with the dealer re glass breakage when I bought my tractor He told me that the only broken glass they have seen is when operators fail to close the door when moving the tractor and catch the glass door on some stationary object.

I made a conscious effort to close the door every time I move the tractor even a few feet. It becomes second nature after a while to latch the door, so it is a non issue to me.

The other issue s with low hanging branches, but again, the glass cab protects your head and especially your eyes, so I don’t see that as a negative.

Thanks for the reply

I think I'm convinced now that a cab is the way to go. I think I'm going to go new and bigger, probably the NX5010 HST Cab. Turns out my ch3510 trade-in is much higher than I expected.

 

[Diggin It]

I don't how true it is, but I've seen it said here that adding a BH after the fact doesn't always work out as well as getting a new machine with it already installed. Something about them being matched somehow. BHs and Cabs are fairly major things to add and though people add one or the other to their existing machines, adding both could be complicated.

If you can get an upgrade deal your bank account is happy with, it's probably better to go that way.

Personally, I'm too claustrophobic to be in small places.

 

[finn1]

Your Kioti dealer has a factory engineered backhoe and subframe available.

I was quoted $7500 for one for my ck4010se cab tractor, with only three minutes of negotiation.

I decided a mini excavator was in the cards rather than a backhoe attachment for the tractor, though.

 

[TN8Man]

Your Kioti dealer has a factory engineered backhoe and subframe available.

I was quoted $7500 for one for my ck4010se cab tractor, with only three minutes of negotiation.

I decided a mini excavator was in the cards rather than a backhoe attachment for the tractor, though.

I was looking at adding the back hoe to the NX5010, it would have been a 11k upper. A used mini excavator is less and more capable.

 

[Diggin It]

Everybody keeps harping on those things, but here's another question. Do they have a road gear? Can you travel a paved road a couple of miles to get to another property without a trailer?

 

[finn1]

Everybody keeps harping on those things, but here's another question. Do they have a road gear? Can you travel a paved road a couple of miles to get to another property without a trailer?

No, but trailers are cheap, and you probably need one anyway if you have equipment or live on any sort of average.

The benefits of a small excavator rather than a backhoe outweigh the disadvantages. Removing a subframe and backhoe so one can use a box blade or pto driven equipment is a bigger job than putting a mini on the trailer.

 

[L47TLBwannabe]

A small excavator is vastly superior to a backhoe, when I was a kid everybody that did sewer and water work and any other utility work had a tractor backhoe, but as hydraulic excavators became more popular and offered in more sizes including the mini-excavators, tractor-backhoe's have lost considerable ground, they are slower, less maneuverable, less versatile, and less mobile. For a good while I wanted a Kubota TLB for my fledgling business but then I would have a more expensive machine that would struggle at best when the ground is frozen here and couldn't dig deep burial septic tanks at least without a lot of hassle, I would need to install an aftermarket cab and it would be a pain in the butt to change from the backhoe to the 3-point hitch. This I already know from a friend of mine who has a Kubota L2800 with a BH77 backhoe that he almost never uses. Ideally I'd like to get an 8 to 12 tonne excavator and outfit it with an Eng-Con or Kinshofer tilt-rotator and do a wide variety of jobs.

 

[4570Man]

An excavator sucks by itself. You’ll hardly ever see an excavator working without a loader/skid steer or dump trucks usually both by its side. You need a second loader machine to complete with a backhoe. And they can’t move very far by themselves. For most homeowners a backhoe would be a better tool. I’ll run against a mini excavator any time doing a wide range of tasks with a backhoe any time. Your slightly more efficient digging can’t make up for your severe handicap at anything else. Bringing a skid steer to the table brings double the price and more time getting it there. And comparing against a tractor backhoe is biased right off the start. A real TLB like a Kubota M59 is different animal than the tractor machine.