Back hoe thumb safety

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bx-23 ,
I was just thinking,a lot of TBN folks are adding thumbs to their tractors,but there is no safety info,so lets pitch in and make some.i know from personal experience ,when hauling an item with my thumb,things can get tippy quick.A couple i can think of is:
1 add proper front ballast
2 keep it as low to the ground as possible
3 shift the load to the up hill side ,when ground isnt level
4 move slow ,with no sudden movements,when outriggers are up.

anyone else? I cant be the only one whom has been uneasy moving stuff
ALAN
 
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hmm, well maybe im all wrong here, but i dont think ya are realy supposed to lift and drive with things hung from the backhoe, thumb or not. usualy when using a backhoe for lifting the outriggers are down and the load is lifted and swung around within the working radius of the machine. i know that the operators manual for my gradall excavator specificaly says that excavators are not designed to lift and carry loads, only to lift and swing them into location with the outriggers down. but im sure a dozen people will chime in and say they carry stuff with there backhoe all the time and its not a problem, but none the less i dont think it is designed with that in mind
 
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markct said:
hmm, well maybe im all wrong here, but i dont think ya are realy supposed to lift and drive with things hung from the backhoe, thumb or not. usualy when using a backhoe for lifting the outriggers are down and the load is lifted and swung around within the working radius of the machine. i know that the operators manual for my gradall excavator specificaly says that excavators are not designed to lift and carry loads, only to lift and swing them into location with the outriggers down. but im sure a dozen people will chime in and say they carry stuff with there backhoe all the time and its not a problem, but none the less i dont think it is designed with that in mind

EXACTLY what I was thinking. Dig it up, and lift it out of the hole with the thumb. Then set it down, spin around and pick it up with the grapple. What's that, you don't have a grapple? :rolleyes: They're a lot more practical for moving with heavy objects than a thumb in my opinion.
 
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You guys both have good points,and i cant argue with them,it would be a losing cause.Yes i have seen[and done myself] lots of folks carrying stuff with their thumbs.Where that mine was homemade,of course i would have no safety info.Right or wrong i haul stuff with mine constantly,from the rock retaining wall project,i posted this spring to moving a brush pile etc.My personal opinion would be you arent any more unsafe hauling a properly ballasted load behind you,than in front of you,as long as its center of gravity is in its proper place.An unproper balanced tractor with a full front end loader can dump you over just as quick in my mind.At least with the hoe i can shift the weight to the high side on hilly ground,i hate that am i gonna tip over feeling i get sometimes with a loaded fel,i can reduce that feeling hauling objects with the hoe.Only problem is you have to readjust things as terrain changes.
One reason i decided to build a thumb,was a project at my work A major constuction company tore down a large warehouse with an excavader.He picked through the rubble seperating the tin,wood metal,steel by picking it up and lugging it to different piles it was so smooth i think he could have picked up a dozen eggs without breaking them.After he broke up the foundation in large slabs and laid them out like you would a jig saw puzzle.There is a steep banking by my mill and he would select a peice lug it down the hill[very steep] and place it.Then he would drive back up select the proper peice and go again. What a nice looking retaining wall it is! I was so impressed i had to build one.In fact i watch escavader operators lug stuff all the time,even for the highway crews rocking up steep hills beside the highways[out of reach from the road].Im sure a steel track would be alot more stable,but i dont feel doing things with a tractor is all that unsafe,IF YOU PRACTICE SAFETY.[in my opinion]
If i hadnt of used my thumb ,my rock retaining wall would not have happened.There is no way i could have selected and loaded each individual rock from the stone wall,into the fel and placed it exactly where it had to be[half of them i couldnt lift].
I guess what im trying to get at ,is your absolutely correct,but all these folks thumbing their tractors lately,are not doing it to move an item in a 10ft radius,they probably will attempt hauling things,i just thought we might chat about keeping it as safe as possible.[someones gonna say" if you want to be safe dont do it"]Id better retract on my safety advice on hauling stuff with a thumb...dont do it its not safe.
Heres a pic of my retaining wall,holding back my wonderful veggie garden,im glad i came through it without an accident.Thanks for the replys guys point well taken,its something to avoid doing when you can.
ALAN
 
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try that pic again
 

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