Backhoe Backhoe addition????

[Slippy]

I have the 511 (Mahindra/Bradco) on my 6000 4wd. It is a beast. Been very happy with it. I don't have a pto pump and it has never been a problem. I don't run mine everyday, in fact, I really don't have a lot of hrs on it, but when you need it, even for the small job, it sure is great. I have two buckets as well. One small for trenchs for drain, which cuts down on back fill material needed. I also have 24 inch for bigger jobs. I also agree, go with the sub frame mount. I really don't like the idea of being in between the tractor and the hoe with all that stress w/o knowing it will not crush me.

 

[Dougster]

I contacted Bradco. The 611 uses the same subframe as the 511 for the 6500 4wd. What do you mean about "takes some getting use to..."? What were the issues you had with the pto pump? (While I don't know if it will fit, I was thinking about replacing by tractor pump with one from the 6520 (12.4 gpm) or the 7520 tractor (17 gpm). I'd also probably want to add a reservior for cooling.)

I've always wondered the same thing... if the 611 and 511 are essentially interchangable dimensionally, 600 series adding only 250 lbs and both use the same subframe, why would Mahindra choose to offer the 509 & 511 as opposed to the 609 and 611 (or perhaps offer both)? Aside from the hydraulic pump rating issue (which, admittedly, generally matches the 500 series specs better on most Mahindras... albeit quickly fixable with a PTO pump), I can't help but wonder if Mahindra feels there would be too much stress on the tractor frame with the more powerful 600 series units. This interests me a lot since I am out of warranty (i.e., no warranty left to void) and occasionally see 611's come available on eBay and elsewhere for semi-reasonable money. Provided I could get something decent for my like-new 509, this could be a pretty interesting upgrade. Since I will probably add a PTO pump someday anyway, why not?

Dougster

 

[Tim_in_IA]

Tim,

Not sure what you mean about "...511 listed as an option for the 6500." I have 6500 4wd. Did you mean 611?

I contacted Bradco. The the 611 uses the same subframe as the 511 for the 6500 4wd.

What do you mean about "takes some getting use to..."? What were the issues you had with the pto pump? (While I don't know if it will fit, I was thinking about replacing by tractor pump with one from the 6520 (12.4 gpm) or the 7520 tractor (17 gpm). I'd also probably want to add a reservior for cooling.)

Bob

Bob, if you look at the mahindra usa website and the 6500 it has the 511 and a smaller hoe listed as options. I didn't see the 611 but that doesn't mean it wont work. The pump I had has plastic oil level sights that cracked and leaked oil causing my pump to sieze. They have worked on it a few times. My dealer has been great, but they said Bradco wasn't the friendliest for getting parts since they aren't a regular Bradco dealer. I am just lucky that I live half an hour away from Bradco's shop so they could drive and pick up the parts. The dealer did all of this at their expense, very nice people.

I also had the idea of changing out the tractor's pump but I don't know what all is involved. Might be other hidden issues such as resivoir capacity. I know for each gpm you are supposed to have a certain amount of resivoir for cooling and such.

By getting used to I just mean it is a very powerful hoe and you have to learn how to feather the controls and have the rpms and speed control set right on the tractor for what you are doing. If you have used a hoe before then this may be old hat for you.

 

[Bobvt]

Dougster,

All the Bradco 611s I've seen on Ebay (last few weeks) have quick attach skid steer mountings. I'd be interested in what you would have to do to retro fit the hoe so it would mount to a tractor subframe.

Bob

 

[Bobvt]

Tim,

Thanks for the info. I now understand what you mean about getting use to the hoe.

I wouldn't be to concerned about increased reservoir capacity for loader work, if I used the the 6520 pump (12.4 gpm). For backhoe work, I would want to add a reservoir, especially for cooling.

Bob

 

[Dougster]

Dougster, All the Bradco 611s I've seen on Ebay (last few weeks) have quick attach skid steer mountings. I'd be interested in what you would have to do to retro fit the hoe so it would mount to a tractor subframe. Bob

No clue here Bob. I only learned from this thread that the 609/611 BH would fit a 509/511 subframe! Personally, I'd be willing to pay some good money to go from the 509 to EITHER a 511 or 611. The 509 is great, but I'd really love that little bit of extra reach... and the real beauty of it: It would still fit in my garage! I just think I've seen more used 611's available in my endless Internet travels... most (I think) without any mounting adapters or with ones I could never use... so why not go for the extra power too???

Unless, of course, Mahindra has some really good reason... other than hydraulic pump flow... why not to do so.

Dougster

 

[Tim_in_IA]

Speaking of reach. That is why I picked the 511. I can't remember the specs off hand but it can sure go deep (or far ). Here I am the first day I was using it.

 

[Dougster]

Speaking of reach. That is why I picked the 511. I can't remember the specs off hand but it can sure go deep (or far ). Here I am the first day I was using it.

Let me know when you are ready to trade!

Dougster

 

[jpm]

bob the hoe connetion of skid steer v 4 point is the same,they are both bolted on.If you have a way to hold the 4 pt up and lined up it's easy

 

[Bobvt]

JPM,

Are you say that it is relatively easy to swap out the skid steer mount (unbolt) for the mount that would couple to the tractor subframe?

Bob