Backhoe chain hooks

[hayden]

Yup, that's the warning that I'm ignoring.

I can easily see how you could get yourself into trouble craining. If you lift up something heavy in close to the tractor and directly behind, you have good stability, but if you the extend the hoe so the load is reached way out, then swing it to the side, I could see trouble.

 

[Gary_in_Indiana]

My John Deere model 47 backhoe manual also lists lifting instructions and load capacity. It even includes a diagram on how and where to attach the chain. I used it for just that purpose on the back of my 4200 this weekend and it worked great. /w3tcompact/icons/grin.gif I think I may have to add a couple hooks on the backhoe when I'm welding a pair on my FEL this week or next. Thanks for an idea that'll make me look pretty sharp. /w3tcompact/icons/clever.gif

 

[Richard]

What am I missing here?

I’m not suggesting anyone do anything that would jeapordize anything. That said, I lift all the time with my hoe.

Let me phrase my question this way.. If I have a load in my hoe bucket and it’s extended ALL the way out to any side and that load weighs 1,000 pounds. (I think hoe is rated to 2,000 pounds fully extended, so 1,000 is within specs)

What is the “substantial” difference if I chain an engine to the bucket and crane it? (let’s presume the engine also weighs 1,000 pounds)

How is that substantially different than “craning” a bucket of dirt that weighs 1,000 pounds, OTHER than the fact, that the engine is chained.

In my specific case, I have Grade 100 chain and WRAP the chain around bucket and teeth so that I do not have a hook that can accidently snap off.

Is it the CHAIN that is the concern here? Or the fact of using the hoe? If the concern is bursting a hose, does that not apply in either example?

I’m not trying to incite, just owning up to what I’ve done (as I now see others have). Seems to me, that if weight is the issue, the relief valve ought to stop you at it’s limits?

I’ve simply become more confused on reading this as to what the EXACT issue is.

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Richard

 

[Anonymous Poster]

The issue is that smaller backhoes are not RECOMMENDED to be used as overhead cranes. Yet, we all do it in one way or another. Necessity is the mother of invention, right? Personally, I just use a heavy duty shackle attached to the buckets lower holes. For heavier stuff, I have hooks welded to the lower boom.

 

[hayden]

I agree. That's why I welded the hooks on.

 

[Volp]

I can only agree to the above!
I have a short chain with a hook passed through the drainage hole in the bucket secured with a shackle as you can see in my signature below.

 

[mdbarb]

This looks good but I wonder about just putting one in the center down in between the two fins for protection....

 

[hayden]

You could do that. I didn't for a few reasons.

1), the name plate is between the two braces and would have had to be removed (not a big deal)

2) Access to the hooks is easier where they are.

3) I liked the idea of two for better load distribution

4) I felt mounting them to the braces was least likely to cause bucket bending and distortion when lifting. I was worried that welding to the bucket surface woudl lead to bending of the bucket. This was the more significant reason for me.