Bad Kioti things

[Massey1010]

Well I have a little over 200 hours on my CK20S now and I've found the following faults with it.

Exhaust pipe ends in a position so that the exhaust blackens the FEL

Turn signal lights are unprotected and get busted off doing brush removal

Rubber mat on left hand side will not stay in place.

Have never been able to get the bucket to raise and dump simultaneously as indicated on the joystick diagram.

3pt seems to drop slightly and lug the engine at idle when a heavy load is behind such as a chipper

Infrequently will randomly lose power steering under load

Unable to spin tires even slightly when encountering resistance such as taking a bite out of a dirt mound. It just whines even at full engine rpms.

Other than those problems it's been a great workhorse and I'd buy it again. Just thought I'd share some of my annoyances.

 

[Dmace]

Besides the turn signals, rubber mat, and exhaust pipe, the rest of your problems all sound like a hydraulic pressure problem. I would test your hydraulic pressure or have the dealer test it to make sure it's in spec.

Also, how is the tractor setup when you can't spin the tires? Does it have an implement on the back, loaded tires? With the backhoe on my CK20HST and loaded tires, it will stop before spinning the tires but with just a box blade, snow blower or nothing on the 3pt, it will spin the tires to china. I find with the backhoe on back, I get more done and can fill the bucket easier. Spinning tires is not always a good thing.

 

[Hawghauler]

Sounds like a good tractor if that is the worst it has thrown at you. The only mechanical contrievence that hasn't had detectable flaws that I have purchased is my RoadKing. I could not detect one paint/chrome/casting flaw when purchased, nor in the next seven years and it never failed one operator demand, ever. Everything elses hiccups occasionally and I don't sweat it.

 

[Thomas]

By the sounds you given Kioti test.

"Unable to spin tires even slightly when encountering resistance such as taking a bite out of a dirt mound. It just whines even at full engine rpms."

Was the tractor in High or low range..most of time in low range tires should spin unless real good traction.

 

[Massey1010]

This happens when I have something like the brush hog on the back. I always use low range for everything except if I need to travel a short distance down the road. Ground is usually hard enough that you cannot leave any tracks. No ballast in the tires. I agree that spinning the tires is not a good thing but the tires should always turn in my mind.

 

[JoelD]

I agree unless there is tons and tons of weight with perfect traction you should always be able to spin the tires

I've never not been able to spin my ties with hoe on and in low

Joel

 

[Noland]

I have noticed most of those things on my CK20H. But I can't say that I have ever lost power steering and mine will spin the tires in low range if the rpms are up and I ease into the treadle.

 

[Gil Case]

I had a Chinese Benyi (Rhino clone), if it was in 4WD when you drove into a pile of stone or dirt, it would pick the rear wheels off the ground and put all the torque on the front axles. Snapping a front axle will teach you to dig in 2 WD. I have not taken the 4 WD chance with the CK20S and it always spins those rears when I drive into a pile of top soil, even with the back hoe on. I am assuming the front axles on the Kioti can stand the torque, but I have not chanced it.

 

[chelydra]

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Have never been able to get the bucket to raise and dump simultaneously as indicated on the joystick diagram. ... Infrequently will randomly lose power steering under load

I also find that controls are mainly "one movement at a time" - especially the BH. But I rarely run above 2200-2400 RPM, so perhaps it's a flow issue.

The steering locks up hard at seemingly random intervals, usually while backing-and-forthing. No obvious correlation with any use conditions, and a bit scary. Dealer said nothing was wrong, but couldn't explain.

Overall, a great machine, despite an annoying hydraulic problem that dealer never fixed right, leading to a small persistent drip in the BH valving. I'd buy it again, unless something better came along.

-Chelydra

 

[Charlesaf3]

"Exhaust pipe ends in a position so that the exhaust blackens the FEL

Turn signal lights are unprotected and get busted off doing brush removal"

Pretty common problems, possibly unavoidable. I wouldn't harsh on Kioti for them. Certainly Kubota is no better.