Bad mouthing a Kioti?

[KiotiKevin]

Here's my take on Kioti; I shopped around 10 years ago for a tractor, looked at the other brands and found (in my opinion) that Kioti was equal to if not better built than both Kubota & John Deere and cost less. I had a CK25 HST for 10 years and the only problem I had was a leaky seal in my left front wheel housing 4 years ago, the dealer is 3 hours from me but services this area regularly. They fixed it in my back yard and it cost me a total of $168 parts, labor, & taxes included. On resale you can take this fact to the dealer lots, I paid $19,500 ten years ago had 550hrs on it, traded up to a 2014 NX4510 and got $15000 for my trade. I shopped all around Atlantic Canada on the original price of the NX and there was no inflated price to accommodate the sale. To prove my pricing point you can find my old CK25 with Sims cab on Proudfoot Motors, New Glasgow website TLB for $22,995. I love my new Kioti. Bring on the snow eh !!!
Kevin

 

[Parkanzky]

Badmouthing is a huge turn-off for me from a dealer. I'm in the middle of tractor shopping (As it happens, I have it narrowed down to the JD 2032R or the Kubota B3350 right now). There are two JD dealers and two Kubota dealers within a reasonable distance of me.

I went to the bigger JD dealer first, told him what I was interested in, and he showed me their tractors. I've never purchased a tractor before, so he discussed what I wanted to do with it and helped me figure out what size would be best for my needs. I thanked him and told him that I wanted to look at Kubota and Case as well. He said, "Those are both good tractors. You'll just need to drive them and see what you like." Great experience.

Then, I went to the Kubota dealer south of me. I went in and told him that I'd been to the JD dealer and settled on the 2032R if I go that route, so I'd like to see the comparable orange tractor. He immediately responded, "Do you want a plastic hood?!?!" and "Do you want to be able to lift and curl the bucket at the same time?" I spent another 15 minutes listening to nonsense about Deere not making their own engines (I don't care as long as it's a good engine.) and every other attack he could think of. I kept trying to steer him back to the Kubotas with things like, "So show me what you'd recommend here." but all he wanted to do was badmouth other brands. A friend was with me (He has a Kubota, so I took him along to help me shop.). When we finally left, he started laughing as soon as we got out the door. I'll never go back to that dealer. If they had been the only Kubota dealer in town, I would have already purchased the JD because it wouldn't matter how good the Kubota is...

 

[k0ua]

Sales people need to learn that bad mouthing someones product unless you have solid 3rd party proof of a known defect rarely works, and is usually counterproductive. Only poor desperate salespeople engage heavily in negative advertising.

 

[pmhowe]

When I decided to buy a tractor, I looked for dealers near me. I found a John Deere dealer, and a Kubota dealer. Another 90 miles away, I found an LS dealer and a Bobcat dealer. I liked the Bobcat, but was worried about the distance for support, and the fact that it was becoming an orphan. I wanted an LS, but the dealer did not have the model I wanted, and wasn't receptive to selling me one. There were no Mahindra nor Kioti dealers nearby. I went to the John Deere dealer, but couldn't get him to give me the time of day. I ended up buying a Kubota, which I love. However, I suspect I could have gotten all the features from a Kioti, at lower price, had there been a dealer within working distance.

 

[Garandman]

Kubota dealer I'm working with in Central NH is very respectful of all brands. I've found owners to be far more chauvinistic.

Nearest dealer to my place is now Mahindra but had no stock in the model I was interested in.

 

[paulfun9]

While shopping the Kabota and JD tractors I was very up front about checking out the other brands before making a decision. It seemed to me that the kabota dealership and salesmen were far more tolerable of hearing this and didn't bad mouth the other brands. However one salesman did with very carefully chosen words warn me to pay very close attention to "SOME" of the lower cost brands but mentioned no names. On the other hand I heard a lot of flack at most of the JD shops and questioned them about specifics. As usual not a one could offer any specific problems with anything but were dumbfounded when I started to read off of a list of known existing problems that have been reported about their tractors.
I did however get an earful from many current owners on reasons why they didn't go with one brand as opposed to an other but also have to wonder where they got their input from? Because as I investigated the problems they cited I could only validate some very minor problems like the ignition switch on the Kioti.
Most of my friends who own tractors so far have been nothing but impressed with the DK40 so far. Just today while we were doing some driveway work one of my tried and true Green or nothing friends sounded almost like a kid asking his parents for some candy in the store when he offered to run the DK for a bit. The smile on his face told the story more so than any words could but he is for sure second guessing most of the things he simply repeated to me about the other brands when I was looking.

 

[TripleR]

Neither our local Kubota or John Deere dealer have ever said anything negative about other brands. I looked at Kioti when shopping, but our only local dealer keeps few in stock. My brother went out of state to get his Kioti and it's a great little tractor. Our LS/Mahindra dealership has their display lot at one location and a small "office" with no showroom some distance away, where getting help is hit and miss, nice people, but not for me.

 

[oosik]

I have Kubota, JD & New Holland dealers within a 50 mile radius. I went with the dealership that I had previous experience with and I knew could/would provide good service. I'm not going out of state for any brand of tractor or any major purchase for that matter. I did, once, on a car and it was a nightmare.

All three of these dealerships welcomed comparison shopping. I simply found that Kubota offered the best pricing and had the tractor I wanted on their lot. They also provide excellent service. The owners of the local Kubota dealership are part of a long time farming family and are tied to local farmers & their situations - not corporate goals.

 

[Wolfy]

I think you find that will all brands. Kubota does seem to be getting too expensive. I can hardly stand my Kubota dealership, the slow parts arrival and cockiness. If I buy new, Im looking at Kioti and Mahindra carefully.

 

[houstonscott]

Use TBN, search through posts of problems for both brands, look at issues and make your own evaluation. I think you will come to a clear answer to your question. HS.