Bad Oil New Tractor

/ Bad Oil New Tractor #163  
Why do you think that?

the poster came hear looking for a free ride and support for his bad judgement.. he didn't get it.. I doubt he'll have enough gumption to post back..

if he does... I'll be surprised..

soundguy
 
/ Bad Oil New Tractor #164  
the poster came hear looking for a free ride and support for his bad judgement.. he didn't get it.. I doubt he'll have enough gumption to post back..

if he does... I'll be surprised..

soundguy

'bad judgement' , Your being kind Soundguy, I'd have anothe word that covers that!

I'd be very angry--at myself --if I'd have done what he did.

Some folks just can't accept blame and it gets worse when $$$ are involved.

Kinda like getting a speed ticket, you did speed so you get to pay.
OK, I'd be absolutle PO'd if the ticket was 51 in a 50 zone, but say 75--that would be well merited.
 
/ Bad Oil New Tractor #165  
Hasn't this been beaten to death yet?
 
/ Bad Oil New Tractor #166  
Hasn't this been beaten to death yet?

I really feel for B2B with the problem he had. Even if he contributed to it or caused it I still feel sorry that he had the problem.

He should step up and disclose the analysis results on the fluid he put into the tractor. Own up to it being a problem he created or at least contributed to and I think he'd get more support.
 
/ Bad Oil New Tractor #167  
Hasn't this been beaten to death yet?

new readers keep finding the topic, reading hte first page, then making a reply which basically re-iterates everything said in subsequent pages... etc.

soundguy
 
/ Bad Oil New Tractor #168  
I really feel for B2B with the problem he had. Even if he contributed to it or caused it I still feel sorry that he had the problem.

He should step up and disclose the analysis results on the fluid he put into the tractor. Own up to it being a problem he created or at least contributed to and I think he'd get more support.

I agree.

He didn't 'deserve' to be the unlucky guy to get stuck with the ?mislabeled? oil.. however.. once he noticed it was wrong.. the onus was on him to start correcting it then, vs waiting ? a hundred more hours while the machine screamed in pain and then started failing..

soundguy
 
/ Bad Oil New Tractor #170  
Don't think we ever will know.
 
/ Bad Oil New Tractor #171  
There are two kinds of people, thoese that have and thoes that are about to.
 
/ Bad Oil New Tractor #172  
????????
 
/ Bad Oil New Tractor #173  
I don't know about you guys, but I don't think we'll ever here from the OP again.
 
/ Bad Oil New Tractor #175  
Yep, he sure did screw up. Now, not that I am taking up for the guy, but if I was taking $700 worth of meds every month, possibly not thinking very clearly, maybe something he cannot control. Also think more of a "saving money" thing using the 3rd rate oil instead of the OEM. Regardless, it is his fault and no manufacturer is gonna shell out thousands of dollars for his mistake. Still dont understand trying to say a few bucks using cheap a..s oil in a multi-thousand dollar machine. Why take the chance? Years ago in the early 70's, pumping gas while in high school, this wizard in a gas mercedes wanted "white gas" in it instead of "regular gas". He was told not for vehicles several times but he insisted. We filled it up. One hour later he drove back hollering and screaming, his car now sounded like a peanut thrasher. We all had a good laugh, the dumba-s.
 
/ Bad Oil New Tractor #176  
Yep, he sure did screw up. Now, not that I am taking up for the guy, but if I was taking $700 worth of meds every month, possibly not thinking very clearly, maybe something he cannot control. Also think more of a "saving money" thing using the 3rd rate oil instead of the OEM. Regardless, it is his fault and no manufacturer is gonna shell out thousands of dollars for his mistake.
Still dont understand trying to save a few bucks using cheap a..s oil in a multi-thousand dollar machine. Why take the chance?
Years ago in the early 70's, pumping gas while in high school, this wizard in a gas mercedes wanted "white gas" in it instead of "regular gas". He was told not for vehicles several times but he insisted. We filled it up. One hour later he drove back hollering and screaming, his car now sounded like a peanut thrasher. We all had a good laugh, the dumba-s.
They can't see that because they are blinded by the big $.50 to $1.00 a quart savings.
 
/ Bad Oil New Tractor #177  
This is -NOT- a cheap oil vs an expensive oil issue.. it is a -WRONG- oil vs -CORRECT- oil issue.

He knew the moment he started pouring that pail that it was very different oil than what he was used to seeing.
At that very moment.. comon sense would have been to pull the drain plug and let it run right back out! He didn't.. asked a 'feel-good' question.. then used the machine as it protested for quite some time.

soundguy

Yep, he sure did screw up. Now, not that I am taking up for the guy, but if I was taking $700 worth of meds every month, possibly not thinking very clearly, maybe something he cannot control. Also think more of a "saving money" thing using the 3rd rate oil instead of the OEM. Regardless, it is his fault and no manufacturer is gonna shell out thousands of dollars for his mistake. Still dont understand trying to say a few bucks using cheap a..s oil in a multi-thousand dollar machine. Why take the chance? Years ago in the early 70's, pumping gas while in high school, this wizard in a gas mercedes wanted "white gas" in it instead of "regular gas". He was told not for vehicles several times but he insisted. We filled it up. One hour later he drove back hollering and screaming, his car now sounded like a peanut thrasher. We all had a good laugh, the dumba-s.
 
/ Bad Oil New Tractor #178  
True, if they provide it free of charge, they can require it. Although, I have never heard of anyone doing this. I know some newer cars come with free oil changes for some period of time, but I do not know how they are or are not applying this to warranty. That adds an interesting twist that I had not even thought of.

Here's another twist for you on oil and warranties...

I purchased some rather expensive German made Vacuum Pumps for the Hospital...

The start-up instructions stated warranty void if initial start-up not perfomed by manufacturer... there was no charge for this service... only a phone call to schedule.

The warranty, with manufacturer start-up, is 1 year and is extended to two years provided only manufacturer's oil and filters are used and 500 hour interval service documentation maintained...

It's been 14 years and the pumps are still going strong... more than double typical service life... you can bet I only use OEM oil and filters... Not worth putting my head in the noose to save a few bucks servicing $80,000 worth of pumps...
 
/ Bad Oil New Tractor #179  
This is -NOT- a cheap oil vs an expensive oil issue.. it is a -WRONG- oil vs -CORRECT- oil issue.


The problem I see is tractor fluid isn't spec'd like almost every other lubricant used on a tractor.

Engine oil- no problem> use the recommended API grades.

Grease- no problem> use the recommended NLGI grades and makeup, ie moly.

Gear oil- no problem> again use the recommended grade and rating ie GL4, GL5.

Tractor fluid> hmmm. No real "standard" I'm aware of. There are all sorts of mysterious compositions and claims of "meeting specs" that can't be easily verified. Too bad there aren't standards like for other common lubricants.

It would sure save a lot of grief. In the OPs case it probably wouldn't have helped though, one has to assume some responsibility for inspecting the product, if it obviously looks wrong and sounds wrong in the machine....it probably is wrong.
 

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