"bandito" shoot-down

[JOR_EL]

Just saw the evening news. Will try to ask this relatively calmly:

Is anyone else outraged by the latest "atrocity" our tax dollars were spent on?

So the one CIA operative says, "He(the suspect pilot) doesn't fit the profile(of a drug-smuggler)".

Then: "I think we're making a mistake! "

And the other one says " I agree with you!"

But NO ONE takes adequate action to STOP what's going on!

So the "team" shoots down an unarmed civilian plane, that MIGHT be a "bandito"!

Do you think if he had said "I think we're about to murder innocent people!", they would have been a little more motivated to change the plan?

I guess using innocuous words makes murder just "a mistake", ...so it's no big deal.

And if you do your murdering with military equipment(instead of civilian), under "government" auspices, it's not murder, its an "action", ...after all, you were on a "mission".

But gee, didn't the CIA guys try to get the Peruvian pilot to stop shooting? "NO mas! NO mas!"
Sure, but whoops!... too late. People already dead and wounded. Oh well. it was a "communication problem".

No, ... it was an IDIOT problem! The idiot who sets up a US-CIA/Peruvian "hunter-killer" team with life or death decisions to be made, without certain CLEAR and EFFECTIVE coordination.

I guess the CIA has no agents with the required language skills.

But hey, I'm probably too harsh,...they MIGHT have been druggies, huh? Huh?

What are we supposed to do, ...let people go because they MIGHT NOT be?

Idiots!

The older I get, the less tolerance I have for gung-ho trigger-happys supposedly in MY employ, pulling these kind of stunts on My behalf, and paying the millions of $ they deserve to be sued-for with MY tax dollars.

I'll feel just a tad better if at least someone out there feels the same way! Any birds of a similar feather?

Larry

 

[cowboydoc]

Re: \"bandito\" shoot-down

And people wonder why we have the crappy reputation we do internationally. Yes I agree with you Larry. It really makes me wonder who in the hell these people are that actually do this stuff or worse yet who the bozos are that think up these missions.

 

[cup149]

Re: \"bandito\" shoot-down

I heard the audio this morning on NPR's Morning Edition. It sounded like it was the Peruvian officer that made the decision to fire and radioed his superiors for permission. The language problem seemed to be the largest factor. The Americans kept telling him that they didn't think the plane was smuggling, but couldn't get the Peruvian to understand. The audio should be on npr.org later today.

 

[Bird]

<font color=blue>Any birds of a similar feather?</font color=blue>

Yes!! An almost unbelievable event. And like Richard said, it's no wonder our international reputation suffers (not to mention the poor innocent people who get hurt or killed).

Bird

 

[JOR_EL]

Re: \"bandito\" shoot-down

<font color=blue>The Americans kept telling him that they didn't think the plane was smuggling</font color=blue>

And if the "Americans"( I'm reluctant to use the same term to describe both these guys and myself) had "thought" (this is the operative word here!) they were smuggling???

Interesting process for rendering and executing a death verdict!

Supporting policies like this strikes me as UN-American, if anything!

But hey, they might have stopped one ten-billionth of the flow of drugs that feed the "American" demand. And the whole operation is only costing(in addition to lives!) more thousands of dollars than we will ever be told about. What an effective, sensible "war".

I say let's re-instate prohibition, ... then we can put up satellites to cover the sea-lanes, and put armed crews in expensive patrolboats to sink those nasty "rum-runners" (and maybe a few innocent fishermen, but so what - This is war!!).

I realize my cynicism is getting the best of me here. I guess I've read too-many "insider" books about the sham "drug-war" to have any respect for these expensive, destructive, politically based "displays of our national will and determination". Yeah,...right! /w3tcompact/icons/tongue.gif

Larry

 

[cup149]

<font color=blue> Interesting process for rendering and executing a death verdict! </font color=blue>
It must be a situation similar to the "no fly zone" in Iraq.

 

[JOR_EL]

<font color=blue>It must be a situation similar to the "no fly zone" in Iraq </font color=blue>

Except the rules seem a little vague:

You CAN fly here, ...but we MAY shoot you down ...depends on what we think at the moment!
(After all, some people who fly here are smugglers!)

Larry

 

[TerryinMD]

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In general, I agree with what most of you guys are saying. The sad part of all of this is that you must apply the Golden Rule here. He who has the Gold sets the rules. Who has the Gold?? The US Gobmnt. Who set the rules? The US Gobmnt. If you step back and examine these "programs", the only reason they are done is that they satisfy some polical agenda. Either someone is making money on the deal or someone is going to look good FOR POLITICAL REASONS. Nothing more! Nothing less! A sad commentary in todays "Global Village". In fact, in most cases, we can only look at ourselves because we elect the officials who set the laws, programs, and policies. Out with old, in with the new. Do that a few times and we might begin to see an effective government!!!

 

[ERNIEB]

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OK, a couple of comments.
First, the so called war on drugs is never going to work, because in these countries corruption is a way of life. Politics, Police, administration, the military, it's all corrupt. How can the US as an outsider hope to change a way of life that has developed over generations?
For some time now the Feds in general seem to go from one fiasco to another. While I'm not ready to run out and join some miltia group, I do think it's time to ask a few questions. Like, Whats going on here?
And now that I've knocked them. The FBI recently nabbed, I think it was, 7 San Antonio Police officers, and 1 constable in a corruption sting. While the officers have not yet had their day in court, the FBI has most on video tape. IMO, if not for the G men, these eight would never have been brought to justice. Score 1 for the FBI.

Ernie

 

[kubmech]

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When you say corruption in "those" countries, you mean the drug people (special inerest group) gives money to government officials to kind of see things their way? Kind of like that?