Basic information on hydraulic repair?

   / Basic information on hydraulic repair? #11  
OK, Ill ask it... Have you put a wrench on the end bolt of that banjo fitting and checked to see that it is tight? It could have just worked loose... It shouldn't be white knuckle tight, but it should be snug. That also appears to be the high pressure inlet line to the valve(hydraulic safety appears to be right behind it) so it has to deal with full system pressure when you lift a heavy load on the loader.

As for anealing, I used to do that for my R5/RD head seals. I would lay them out on an electric stove burner to heat them red then shut the burner off and let them cool in place. This was the way I was taught, it worked well and I never questioned it. A friend said I should quench them but when I asked why he couldn't tell me. So a trip to the library and several metalurgy books later, we determined that it was the temperature rise above a certain level that performed the anealing process. The quench was optional... The quench appears to be pretty handy if you are using a torch to heat the seals. The shock cooling causes the scale to flake off, but the rapid cooling also tends to warp them a little bit.
 
   / Basic information on hydraulic repair? #12  
RonMar said:
The shock cooling causes the scale to flake off, but the rapid cooling also tends to warp them a little bit.

I remember how the scale just flew off when quenched. I also used
custom-made soft copper head gaskets on a Ferrari I used to own.
It is amazing how much it would "squish" under head bolt pressure.

Fuel injection leaks from banjo fittings was often a challenge.
 
   / Basic information on hydraulic repair? #13  
Mr. Wendi welcome to the forum as a new member. I go back and read my old post from time to time so I hope you see this blog. One of the best hydraulic manuals to get you started is written by Rory McLaren at the Fuid Power Training Institute ( Announcing that Rory McLaren Fluid Power Training, Inc. (RMFPT) has now officially become "the Fluid Power Training Institute? ) Indroducton to Closed-Loop Oil System Functions. It will answer your needs and take you into a higher understanding of and appreciation for hydraulics. One of the best things I've ever done for myself was to get certified by the Fluid Power Society in several of their programs. One course in particular that will meet your above needs is the Certified Mobile Hydraulic Mechanic program. Good luck with your future projects.
 
   / Basic information on hydraulic repair?
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#14  
Thanks for the discussion on annealing. My husband and I have worked on quite a bit of metalworking projects: sand casting bronze and silver, lost wax casting, brazing, welding and steel fabrication and are always interested in new thoughts about the fine points. I think he said ferrous metals can be quenched and non-ferrous must air cool? I'll ask.

After communicating with the folks at TYM we think the leaking at the spool actuators and the joystick cable connections is caused by bad seals or o- rings in the directional control valve and, separately, one leak at that P banjo fitting which will need to be seated in the valve body better.

Luckily, since the tractor is still under warranty, an expert mechanic will perform the repair, which gives me some time to learn more!

Thanks for the leads on the manuals and instructions. I found some good drawings of directional control valves including one that is similar to mine at http://www.parker.com/euro_mcd/cat/english/HY17-8546-UK.pdf, mine is like pag. 22. I thought the artist did a good job communicating the basic functions of the components.
 
   / Basic information on hydraulic repair?
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#15  
Whoops! Got that about annealing backwards!
Non ferrous metals, such as copper, bronze should be annealed by quenching. Heat copper just until it glows medium red in dim light and quench as soon as redness disappears. To remove fire scale you can directly quench it in pickle. For copper, that's Sparex #2 (sodium bisulphate).
 
   / Basic information on hydraulic repair? #16  
Whoops! Sorry Mrs. Wendi!
 
   / Basic information on hydraulic repair? #17  
I have a 5040 Kubota tractor and the loader bucket is going up and down by itself. Has anybody had that trouble. How can I fix it. Im out of warrenty and locat kubota tractor dealer went out of business. apeak
 
   / Basic information on hydraulic repair? #18  
I have a 5040 Kubota tractor and the loader bucket is going up and down by itself. Has anybody had that trouble. How can I fix it. Im out of warrenty and locat kubota tractor dealer went out of business. apeak

Is the lever on the control flopping around?
 
   / Basic information on hydraulic repair? #19  
Do you mean that with no hands on, the loader operates on it's own?

Hydraulics gremlins at work here, Just kidding.

If the spring centering springs are broken and you are bouncing around on uneven ground, that might happen.

Something has to move the spools to make things work.
 

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