DarkBlack
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You can稚 store up to 1,200 megawatts.
Both you and the website seem to be missing a time factor
Battery based electric vehicles of today and tomorrow.
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You can稚 store up to 1,200 megawatts.
Both you and the website seem to be missing a time factor
radios1
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if you look here, https://afdc.energy.gov/fuels/fuel_comparison_chart.pdf electric has the highest price per BTU!!..
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Actually that link says "produces and stores". 1200+ mw is the output its capable of, and apparently can be attained in 8 minutes from a cold start.
The link refutes his statement that hydraulic energy storage is a myth, a fable. On the contrary it's real and has been for many years. Are you also saying pumped hydraulic storage is a tale?
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Not enough capacity to be worthwhile. Where are going to build more and large projects ?
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If lumped storage worked , utilities would build and use it .
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Yesterday I went and picked up our 2016 Nissan Leaf SL. After the 30 kWh traction battery failed to maintain 63% of its new stated capacity (lost 4 of its 12 State of Health bars) in only 38 months of use it triggered the replacement warranty. Since the 30 kWh battery has been discontinued they replaced it with the 40 kWh batteries used in the 2020 Leaf. The Leaf Plus uses a 62 kWh battery.
I took the car in 30 Dec 2019 and a few days later determined the battery was ad but said they could not decide in the Memphis Nissan division what to do about it since the new battery listed for $12,500.00 plus labor. A buy back was mentioned and I think the service writer could hear my blood pressure thumping over the phone. Since I had started my claim directly with a National Leaf Customer Rep and had a contact and case number I just let things ride because I wanted to see how it played out since I wanted to know more before we added more Nissan EV's in the coming years. With the Nissan downsizing talk and the former CEO now a fugitive from the law talking about the Nissan company being in bankruptcy in 2022 was not helping my comfort level.
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I just got back in contact with my contact at the national Leaf Customer Service center. Then the Nissan dealership changed my point of contact in their service department and the replacement happened in short order. When I picked it up yesterday the Leaf certified tech came up to the counter and answered a few questions.
Perhaps this new CEO (third one) just put in charge is serious about saving Nissan.
This is my 6th Nissan since 1973 so I have long been sold on the brand but this is our first Nissan without a gas tank.
Using the 150 mile range battery to replace the 107 mile range battery just happened in Jan I have been told so all of the delays on my part and that of Nissan seemed to have worked in our favor. We actually are going to have a few nights of cold temps that will test it somewhat.
What I have learned since last Oct it that I prefer EV's over ICE's for moving people to work, etc. They are quite and the power off of the line is addicting. If one is in the market due to wants or needs then take a look if you wish. Beware they can be addicting.
Retired people with a new like car may be set for life with what they now own. Even 10 years from now production will not be high enough so all new cars sold could be electric. It is not for another 20 years before NEW gas and diesel car sales is expected to be totally pulled off the market in some states in the USA. The supply of batteries for electric cars and trucks is going to be the main hold up of selling more EV's now that Tesla has removed all doubt about the validity of building and driving EV's as daily drivers. It will be interesting to see how many of the old car names are still in business 10-15 years down the road if they miss the paradigm shift away from gas and diesel engines.
I took the car in 30 Dec 2019 and a few days later determined the battery was ad but said they could not decide in the Memphis Nissan division what to do about it since the new battery listed for $12,500.00 plus labor. A buy back was mentioned and I think the service writer could hear my blood pressure thumping over the phone. Since I had started my claim directly with a National Leaf Customer Rep and had a contact and case number I just let things ride because I wanted to see how it played out since I wanted to know more before we added more Nissan EV's in the coming years. With the Nissan downsizing talk and the former CEO now a fugitive from the law talking about the Nissan company being in bankruptcy in 2022 was not helping my comfort level.
More Bad News at Nissan - The Drive
I just got back in contact with my contact at the national Leaf Customer Service center. Then the Nissan dealership changed my point of contact in their service department and the replacement happened in short order. When I picked it up yesterday the Leaf certified tech came up to the counter and answered a few questions.
Perhaps this new CEO (third one) just put in charge is serious about saving Nissan.
This is my 6th Nissan since 1973 so I have long been sold on the brand but this is our first Nissan without a gas tank.
Using the 150 mile range battery to replace the 107 mile range battery just happened in Jan I have been told so all of the delays on my part and that of Nissan seemed to have worked in our favor. We actually are going to have a few nights of cold temps that will test it somewhat.
What I have learned since last Oct it that I prefer EV's over ICE's for moving people to work, etc. They are quite and the power off of the line is addicting. If one is in the market due to wants or needs then take a look if you wish. Beware they can be addicting.
Retired people with a new like car may be set for life with what they now own. Even 10 years from now production will not be high enough so all new cars sold could be electric. It is not for another 20 years before NEW gas and diesel car sales is expected to be totally pulled off the market in some states in the USA. The supply of batteries for electric cars and trucks is going to be the main hold up of selling more EV's now that Tesla has removed all doubt about the validity of building and driving EV's as daily drivers. It will be interesting to see how many of the old car names are still in business 10-15 years down the road if they miss the paradigm shift away from gas and diesel engines.
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Electric vehicles impact is changing the way we think about the future on earth and beyond. I guess the first EV I saw was running around on the moon over 50 years ago. Never thought I would own one some day when I finished high school in 1969. A few dreaming of space have changed the lives of many.
Electric vehicles impact is changing the way we think about the future on earth and beyond. I guess the first EV I saw was running around on the moon over 50 years ago. Never thought I would own one some day when I finished high school in 1969. A few dreaming of space have changed the lives of many.
DarkBlack
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No, you are still missing it. You can not store a certain mega watts It would need to have a time value- like megawatt hours.
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The issue discussed is whether hydraulic energy storage is a myth, a fable. The Helms plant illustrates that the concept is real, and apparently economically rational, its not a fable as asserted in a recent post.
That website defines the peak output attainable, it doesn't say how long until it runs out of water. Write them and ask them how long the water can produce 1200 mw.
DarkBlack
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Read your own post. That is what I wrote you about. It is wrong that is all. Plain and simple
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