Battery based electric vehicles of today and tomorrow.

[3930dave]

You apparently aren't familiar with newer vehicles that automatically shut the engine off when you release the accelerator pedal. No app is necessary. My hybrid does that.

Often, my heavy-sarcasm shines through... but it seems in this case it didn't.

I was poking fun at using billions of $ worth of tech, instead of using a basic mechanical key (like my grandfather would have had) and some now UnCommon Sense, to just turn the vehicle off using your own initiative .

I've driven older hybrids, and am familiar with Auto Stop/Start tech.

Rgds, D.

 

[3930dave]

Just think what would have happened if they were ICE vehicles and sat there idling there engines, not moving. They would have had to turn around and go back into the city, and hope they could get to a gas station to fill back up. Or, like one would assume most people would understand about their EV is they would be full charged at that house, and when sitting in traffic, using very little energy. I sat in a Nero EV, with the owner in the middle of summer, with the AC going and watched the mile to go meter, and it sat at 120 mile the whole time we were talking about the vehicle. Twenty minutes later, she let me drive it, it still said 120 miles. It was obviously using power with the AC on, but not very much.

While I understand the basics of expansion and compression re. traditional AC, there are some interesting new applications in recent vehicles. My buddy's Fusion hybrid seems to be able to generate AC, w/o the engine running.... needs further groking, by me.....

What concerns me much more is heat, though we too have people up here that run vehicle AC year round.....

I'm picky about vehicle heat, because at Best it's a Safety issue, and @ Worst, a Survival one, up here.

For ICE engine efficiency, many engines moved to low drag water pump impellers years back - enough so that the heat you could put onto the windshield @ Idle was seriously compromised, as so little flow was moving through the heater core. You could up-size the heater core, but that not easy to do, and today would interfere with putting big-screen TVs in the dash .

Better manufacturers (BMW IIRC) added a 12v coolant booster pump, to push coolant through the heater core, even before producing hybrids. With auto stop/start on a pure ICE vehicle, there's no technical reason this can't be done, and I'd be a little surprised if it's not common now. In snow country, it's a Safety issue.

EV batteries are at reduced capacity in Winter. I'm on the watch for actual user feedback, from people that routinely drive EVs through bad Winter storms. I'm being serious ^, not sarcastic (for a change ), I want to hear their experiences.....

Rgds, D.

 

[Gale Hawkins]

Fact Check-Electric cars not more likely to get stuck in traffic jams

I see some are struggling with the concept that human drivers go for EVs over ICEV's when they have a feasible option. I understand some posters may let their high power imagination get the best of them especially if they have never driven an EV on a 100 mile trip. Telsa does offer Free solo test drives.

Keep in mind the supply of EVs will be less than demand for a decade so consider waiting until 2035 to get an EV when new ICEVs may no longer be an option at your location. Keep in mind by then new like gas cars should be dirt cheap where gas is running $8 per gallon after tax payer support is removed by their demand.

At that time one could buy a bunch of cheap new like ICEVs so one can skip the EV fad for decades to come. It will not be cheap but it will be doable I expect.

 

[3930dave]

Two articles, from the world I drive in:

Electric Vehicles in Winter - Drive Electric Vermont

What I Learned Driving EV’s Up North In the Winter – WHEELS.ca

Touches on my personal catch-22 with these products..... years back, the job I used to do (which would put these vehicles in my budget range), would be a minimum 120km commute, and on some days, 100's of km.

Rgds, D.

 

[Gale Hawkins]

Two articles, from the world I drive in:

Electric Vehicles in Winter - Drive Electric Vermont

What I Learned Driving EV’s Up North In the Winter – WHEELS.ca

Touches on my personal catch-22 with these products..... years back, the job I used to do (which would put these vehicles in my budget range), would be a minimum 120km commute, and on some days, 100's of km.

Rgds, D.

I also think we are years away from the EVS being a one-to-one replacement option for ICEVs. Today EVS need to be a case-by-case decision.

Today to get a $60K Model Y would be a $80K hit on my IRA account. Buying $60K of Tesla stock in my IRA account now wouldn't trigger a tax event until using the account to make the purchase after we are fully retired.

Currently I want a model Y because I cannot get in and out of a model 3 but if the $25K version I can get in and out of as well as my Nissan Leaf I will just go with the smaller version. I need the full self-driving version so I'm probably looking at $45,000 for the cheap one.

 

[Gale Hawkins]

Gas prices are fueling interest in EVs, nudging closer to tipping point, study finds

Even though battery-related items like charging and range remain top barriers for EV adoption, gas prices are nudging them into consideration for more families.

www.greencarreports.com

 

[Gale Hawkins]

While this is not end of story I do see it is a positive for the American taxpayer and potential inflation rates. Please treat this post as EV news and not political but we know all things dealing with EVS are political at some level.

 

[California]

Gas prices are fueling interest in EVs, nudging closer to tipping point, study finds

Even though battery-related items like charging and range remain top barriers for EV adoption, gas prices are nudging them into consideration for more families.

www.greencarreports.com

Yep. My neighbor is some sort of construction supervisor, maybe in the office. He was commuting in a fancy 4 door pickup, immaculate, I doubt there had ever been anything in the bed.

A few weeks ago after the gas price spike, he bought a Tesla Model 3.

 

[lman]

There is hope.

 

[txdon]

There is hope.

Does the failure of the bill mean no tax rebate for the F150 Lightning?