Battery based electric vehicles of today and tomorrow.

[buckeyefarmer]

Funny one.

 

[goeduck]

EV sales targets to be announced today along with new fuel economy rules for 2030
Executive order stating a minimum of 50% EV's by 2030 (this will include fuel cell and hybrid plugins).
Emission standards for 2023-2026 vehicles will also be stated.

Executive orders are nuts, they just get reversed upon party change.

Oops. Polyticks. Back to the topic of the thread.

 

[sd455dan]

Executive orders are nuts, they just get reversed upon party change.

Oops. Polyticks. Back to the topic of the thread.

Also noticed Tesla wasn't even invited.

Not that they need any help selling EV's -since the entire 3rd quarter quota is already sold out.

 

[goeduck]

And CA doesn't have a grid problem?

Amid worsening drought, Lake Oroville's record-low water level forces shutdown of hydroelectric power plant

California water officials have shut down of a major hydroelectric powerplant at Lake Oroville in Northern California, citing the lowest-ever recorded water level.

www.latimes.com

 

[Gale Hawkins]

Study: EVs cost more to service than ICE vehicles

A good example of EV FUD but reader comments points that out since it's not a consumer issue

 

[Gale Hawkins]

Dave Lee I find to be a voice of reason on the subject of EVs.

 

[Hay Dude]

And CA doesn't have a grid problem?

Amid worsening drought, Lake Oroville's record-low water level forces shutdown of hydroelectric power plant

California water officials have shut down of a major hydroelectric powerplant at Lake Oroville in Northern California, citing the lowest-ever recorded water level.

www.latimes.com

No, they have a leadership problem

 

[Cat385B]

Also noticed Tesla wasn't even invited.

Not that they need any help selling EV's -since the entire 3rd quarter quota is already sold out.

You have a meeting announcing ya want the members attending to build 40-50% of their new vehicles 8 years from now as zero emission vehicles.
Not sure why you would invite the manufacturer who is already at 100%.
The first manufacturer to produce a truck that can tow 12,000 pounds for 350 miles without stopping is going to make a lot of money.

 

[Gale Hawkins]

Also noticed Tesla wasn't even invited.

Not that they need any help selling EV's -since the entire 3rd quarter quota is already sold out.

Tesla is not angling for a corporate bailout. Pay attention to the wording of the OEMs. They understand just as Tesla and Nissan lost billions the first ten years of making EVs so will the OEMs. Who does GM expect to repay the 35 billions they are borrowing to play catch up to Tesla?

 

[Whidbey]

Tesla is not angling for a corporate bailout. Pay attention to the wording of the OEMs. They understand just as Tesla and Nissan lost billions the first ten years of making EVs so will the OEMs. Who does GM expect to repay the 35 billions they are borrowing to play catch up to Tesla?

I have more confidence in GM building quality cars than Tesla. If Tesla can do it then GM or any traditional automaker will do it better. I do give credit to Musk for the innovation.