Battery based vehicles of today and tomorrow pt 2

[CloverKnollFarms]

But but but Kia! $20k is 1-2 years of salary?

Compare apples to apples. Steak to steak. Nothing in 1977 compares to even a Kia in 2024.

I’m comparing averages. On average, new cars aren’t less expensive. They will only go up in cost…

 

[Agvg]

I have been pondering the leftists in CA pushing EVs. CA has the highest gas prices in the nation. Why is that? Might it be taxes on fuel?

Is there a chance they are as stupid as the socialists in Norway?

When they lose the tax dollars from gas, where will the money come from?

Norway raised the cost of electricity. What will the morons in CA do?

The Norwegian government has never earned so much money on oil and gas as the last two years, the Ukraina war has been extremely profitable.

And the government does has a cap on the price or kWh, when the price goes over that the government pays the rest.

 

[Agvg]

2023 earnings

Norway Earns Record Oil, Gas Revenue After Ukraine War

The Norwegian state raked in record oil and gas revenues last year after the war in Ukraine sent energy prices soaring, official figures showed Monday.

www.barrons.com

 

[wawajake]

All Superchargers on I-75 have at least 8 charging stalls.

Buc-ees has 12. Lexington has 12. London has 8.

If only one was in use then no one was waiting.

Or the other units were malfunctioning.

 

[DarkBlack]

I have been pondering the leftists in CA pushing EVs. CA has the highest gas prices in the nation. Why is that? Might it be taxes on fuel?

Is there a chance they are as stupid as the socialists in Norway?

When they lose the tax dollars from gas, where will the money come from?

Norway raised the cost of electricity. What will the morons in CA do?

Yes, yes, and yes. My town adds an additional yearly vehicle registration (vehicle tax) of $100 a year to BEV’s to offset taxes not collected from gasoline or diesel taxes.
Our government size will always grow and taxes will always increase.

The future our government wants, is everyone’s energy machines, from toasters, to vehicles, to home heating/cooling , cooking, etc..to be bi-directional tied to the central electric grid. Your energy profile is then totally available. Other information about you, will be traveling over your electric lines too

Imagine when everyone is part of a giant captive audience to the electric grid for everything. No gasoline, or diesel transportation. What do you think will happen to the price of electricity, and taxes on electricity?

When everyone is driving heavy EV’s, and not walking or taking bicycles, what might the political view of these big heavy machines be then?

 

[Grumpycat]

I have been pondering the leftists in CA pushing EVs. CA has the highest gas prices in the nation. Why is that? Might it be taxes on fuel?

The fuel taxes are high but not that high alone. Is cumulative taxes and regulations which drive up all prices in California. Home of the $18 Big Mac Meal. ($6 here)

 

[Grumpycat]

Or the other units were malfunctioning.

Not Tesla Superchargers. Not even in Chicago where people stuff the connectors with snow.

 

[NoTrespassing]

But but but Kia! $20k is 1-2 years of salary?

Compare apples to apples. Steak to steak. Nothing in 1977 compares to even a Kia in 2024.

How Much Did Popular Cars Cost Every Year Since 1950? (in 2020 dollars) | TitleMax

Have you ever wondered how much a new car cost in 1970, when the sporty Datsun 240-Z zipped onto the roads? Or perhaps you’re curious about how much a new car cost in 1993, when the Toyota Camry was gaining traction as one of the world’s most reliable cars. With the average new car price

www.titlemax.com

 

[Grumpycat]

Imagine when everyone is part of a giant captive audience to the electric grid for everything. No gasoline, or diesel transportation. What do you think will happen to the price of electricity, and taxes on electricity?

When there is competition prices stay down. PV solar is competitive with the cost of utility electricity. For the price of a nice car one can produce one's own electricity with negligible maintenance costs.

With nearly new Tesla 82 kWh batteries going for $8500 on eBay PV storage becomes very very attractive. Without PV storage TVA will pay less than 3¢/kWh for what one produces. With PV storage one keeps the power for oneself to use later when the utility charges 10¢ to 12¢/kWh.

 

[NoTrespassing]

When there is competition prices stay down. PV solar is competitive with the cost of utility electricity. For the price of a nice car one can produce one's own electricity with negligible maintenance costs.

With nearly new Tesla 82 kWh batteries going for $8500 on eBay PV storage becomes very very attractive. Without PV storage TVA will pay less than 3¢/kWh for what one produces. With PV storage one keeps the power for oneself to use later when the utility charges 10¢ to 12¢/kWh.

I predict that the number of people storing energy that they produce will be infinitesimally small for the foreseeable future.