Battery problems

[k0ua]

Agreed.

I'm not too terribly far removed from govt education. 15-20 years ago I was in highschool.

3 years of a foreign language that I haven't used. (Rural Ohio lol)
How about we focus on getting out language right.
Senior year English was nothing but Greek and Norse mythology. Why should that be forced on anyone? If someone wants to get further education on that....more power to them. But it didn't mean squat to me.

And about 2 years into highschool, they did away with shop class and home ec.

And we wonder why this generation isn't independent. Let's stop teaching stuff that matters in the real world in favor of the BS that's being forced now

I do believe you and I are on the same page.. Soon we will be advocating on how to use a grease gun. You might be surprised the number of people that don't know how.

 

[VictorW]

My wife is a teacher and would totally agree with you. Unfortunately the no child left behind act by President Bush put requirements on what is taught. Granted, each state had to come up with their own requirements to meet this Act. My wife has to teach the subject matter that will be state tested in the Spring each year. Low scores on this test can result in her being relieved of her job, at least in our state. There are also no handicaps/multiplying factors for the children who unfortunately have low IQ's and do poorly on these tests. The Act was "No" child left behind.

Learning the basics and hopefully more for whatever toys you have, hobbies, or interests is good to have. There are books on just about any subject and the internet has made it even easier.

 

[k0ua]

My wife is a teacher and would totally agree with you. Unfortunately the no child left behind act by President Bush put requirements on what is taught. Granted, each state had to come up with their own requirements to meet this Act. My wife has to teach the subject matter that will be state tested in the Spring each year. Low scores on this test can result in her being relieved of her job, at least in our state. There are also no handicaps/multiplying factors for the children who unfortunately have low IQ's and do poorly on these tests. The Act was "No" child left behind.

Learning the basics and hopefully more for whatever toys you have, hobbies, or interests is good to have. There are books on just about any subject and the internet has made it even easier.

Yeah, all the good intentioned governmental legislation in the world, always has unintended consequences.

 

[dfkrug]

Knowing how to check voltage and continuity is something everyone should be taught IMO

You can't count on schools for this, sadly.

I come from a long line of EEs, so I was taught by my dad, but he also introduced me to kits you
soldered together yourself. One of my first was a small analog volt-ohm meter. I still have it somewhere.
Last week I gave away an old analog Heathkit VTVM that was excellent, but no longer used.

Not to get to far from the OP's subject, but I volunteer in a local middle school now, showing kids how to
use tools. I discovered that none knew how to hammer a nail in properly.

Parents: please teach your daughters and sons how to use a multimeter, and hammer, too.

 

[rustyshakelford]

You can't count on schools for this, sadly.

I come from a long line of EEs, so I was taught by my dad, but he also introduced me to kits you
soldered together yourself. One of my first was a small analog volt-ohm meter. I still have it somewhere.
Last week I gave away an old analog Heathkit VTVM that was excellent, but no longer used.

Not to get to far from the OP's subject, but I volunteer in a local middle school now, showing kids how to
use tools. I discovered that none knew how to hammer a nail in properly.

Parents: please teach your daughters and sons how to use a multimeter, and hammer, too.

About 10 years ago I dated a girl that was finishing up her biomedical engineering program at a prominent college in Texas. For their senior project they were building a cart that could be used in 3rd world countries behind a motorcycle as a way to transport people to the hospital. While constructing the cart, one of her male classmates had to google how to use a nut, washer and wrench. He wasn't alone. Blew my mind they were so disconnected with reality. It didn't work out with her.....

Brett

 

[PILOON]

My FIL was a professor, linguist and writer.
As an immigrant he wrote a Lithuanian-English dictionary and later on a series of history books.
His only tool(s) was a small brass hammer that had multiple screwdrivers in the handle, and at that he did not know how to use them.
I consider myself to be an above average handyman and so was a welcomed addition to the family.
LOL and always kept busy.

He did everything 'by the book' and actually was very successful in real estate and banking and was later on named to the order of Luthuania for his many achievements and historical writings.
While 'all thumbs' he was otherwise very smart.

 

[K man]

Wow, sure learned a lot on using a multimeter from all the input from you members. Probably the reason why I never used mine was the confusion between volts, amps, witch selection to use etc. I watched the videos and looked kind of easy. Now I will go over to my tractor and see if I learned anything lol. After charging the battery 3 days ago my tractor starts easily so I guess the battery might be ok.
Thanks for your help
Gilles

 

[K man]

Bump this thread to date.
Since I charged up the battery and starting the tractor every other day it seems okay now. So maybe the battery is still good I mean she is only 3 years old. Will see what happens when the cold weather arrives and if she acts up then she gets replaced.

 

[k0ua]

Bump this thread to date.
Since I charged up the battery and starting the tractor every other day it seems okay now. So maybe the battery is still good I mean she is only 3 years old. Will see what happens when the cold weather arrives and if she acts up then she gets replaced.

It may make it another season or two, My battery in the Kioti is a 2010 by the date code on the battery. :shocked: Still starts it fine, but it is not the battery it once was. I have installed a digital voltmeter on my tractor (see it here), and I can tell during the startups, although you would never even notice it, the voltage is just a bit low and getting lower by the month during the glow cycle. This may be its last season.

Please know this, any time you run a starting battery down, you have "used up" some of its life. Starting batteries are not made to run down like trolling motor or other stationary batteries are.

 

[Rara Avis]

Hi all, I have a 2014 CK 30 HST ( 58 hrs) and it is more parked then used lol. I mostly use it in the winter for blowing snow other than that it sits idle. The other day I started it and moved near the garage no problems. Today went out to move it again and guess what battery could not turn engine over just made clicking noises. So I figured it is dead and checked to see maybe I left some lights on or something and no everything is off.
Now I am wondering if I should put the charger on the battery or just say the heck with it and by an new one. I want to make sure my tractor starts in the winter so I can't take a chance with a bad battery.
Thanks for your help and if I do change the battery what kind would you suggest that does not drain over time.
Thanks
Gilles

Make sure you have a desulfating charger, if you are going to try and rescue the battery...

 

[K man]

Well this cold Polar Vortex ( -30) did my battery in lol. Went to NAPA and bought a Legend 800 Cold Crank battery for 159.99 ( CAD) with 6 year warranty. They said the first 4 years if any problems bring it back for refund or replacement at no charge. Now it has a lot of crank and I feel safer now that it will start in the cold.

 

[k0ua]

Well this cold Polar Vortex ( -30) did my battery in lol. Went to NAPA and bought a Legend 800 Cold Crank battery for 159.99 ( CAD) with 6 year warranty. They said the first 4 years if any problems bring it back for refund or replacement at no charge. Now it has a lot of crank and I feel safer now that it will start in the cold.

I don't have the guts to go out in this single digit weather with a negative 6 degree wind chill and even crank up the Kioti.

 

[LD1]

I don't have the guts to go out in this single digit weather with a negative 6 degree wind chill and even crank up the Kioti.

Me either.
Bitter cold here and supposed to be that way for the next week straight.
Sold out of firewood too. 7 or 8 cord in 3 days when this cold spell hit.
Want to get back to cutting bit not when temps are below zero at night and single digit highs.

When the weather finally breaks and it gets back in the 20's it's gonna feel like spring

 

[K man]

I don't have the guts to go out in this single digit weather with a negative 6 degree wind chill and even crank up the Kioti.

I don't like it either k0ua. If I do, I always plug the Kioti at least 1 hour before starting it. We will be getting some snow in the next couple of days if the accumulation is more than 5 inches then I will go out and blow some if not then I wait for more snow. I should of replaced the battery this Summer when it died on me oh well live and learn.

 

[k0ua]

Me either.
Bitter cold here and supposed to be that way for the next week straight.
Sold out of firewood too. 7 or 8 cord in 3 days when this cold spell hit.
Want to get back to cutting bit not when temps are below zero at night and single digit highs.

When the weather finally breaks and it gets back in the 20's it's gonna feel like spring

Yep, it will. I changed the engine oil this fall to the full synthetic Shell, and changed the hydraulic fluid to Kubota SUDT2 so it should help a bit, but still I just don't want to face it.

 

[coobie]

Well this cold Polar Vortex ( -30) did my battery in lol. Went to NAPA and bought a Legend 800 Cold Crank battery for 159.99 ( CAD) with 6 year warranty. They said the first 4 years if any problems bring it back for refund or replacement at no charge. Now it has a lot of crank and I feel safer now that it will start in the cold.

Purchased a Napa battery for my Kioti dK40 last year been great so far.Napa dealer told me there batteries are made in USA by East penn/Deka company..

 

[cabin kioti]

Happy new year all. I have a CK30HST that I bought new in 2006.Believe it or not the battery that came with the tractor lasted 11 years. I thought not to push it any longer so I also bought a NAPA Gold battery. My old battery I gave to my friend that has a Ford 3000 and it is still working in his tractor. I have had a lot of equipment over the years and never had a battery last that long. There was not a name on the battery that I could see. The tractor is at my cabin in Sullivan county PA and I might not get up there to start it for two or three weeks. I have a engine heater and a trickle charger but I shut the power down in the barn, always afraid of mice chewing on the electrical wires.

 

[4570Man]

Me either.
Bitter cold here and supposed to be that way for the next week straight.
Sold out of firewood too. 7 or 8 cord in 3 days when this cold spell hit.
Want to get back to cutting bit not when temps are below zero at night and single digit highs.

When the weather finally breaks and it gets back in the 20's it's gonna feel like spring

I’ve got 10 rick for delivery this week. I sold at least that much maybe more last week. If I waived the dollar a mile delivery charge I could sell double that much but can’t supply that much wood. It’s amazing what cold weather does for firewood sales.

 

[LD1]

I’ve got 10 rick for delivery this week. I sold at least that much maybe more last week. If I waived the dollar a mile delivery charge I could sell double that much but can’t supply that much wood. It’s amazing what cold weather does for firewood sales.

I'm not the cheapest around (as advertised). But thinking of raising prices next year.

Haven't directly asked, but have had customers comment on some of the "cheaper" sellers out there. And it's low quality, junk wood, green unseasoned, or not a full cord. Lots advertising a thrown on pickup load as a cord. Not even close. My 7x12 trailer tossed in with a little mounding....that's a cord.

 

[Ford850]

K Man,
What likely caused your battery to weaken is how you described using your tractor in the first post. By moving the tractor and parking it for another extended length of time, the tractor isn't running long enough to fully charge the battery. Leaving a partially charged battery sit for some time is hard on them. At least this is what I learned was killing my batteries, slowly but surely. I used to move tractors around and then park them for winter. Once I started topping off my batteries by running longer or by adding my BatteryMinder, mine last much longer.