Darren, I was in Elkhart in 1990 and went to the Dexter plant and had axles custom built for my 5th wheel trailer and was surprised at all the different ways they can do it. They had what you're talking about, as well as gear oil instead of grease, the "normal" ones we usually see, etc. And I sat down with one of their guys and we selected the axle tubes I wanted, the hub and spindles I wanted, the brake size, the springs, etc. and when I asked how long it would take to get them made, he looked at his watch and said, "I couldn't have them before 1 o'clock tomorrow." Needless to say I was amazed and he told me they were making 1500 axles a day there./w3tcompact/icons/shocked.gif And they were ready for me to pick up at 1 o'clock the next day, too.