Bear attack in AZ

[Larry Caldwell]

Never mind Cougar, a smelt has more rights in Komi than any tax paying human being.

Delta smelt shuts down major water supply | Farm Progress

All it took was a sparse population of minnow-like smelt and two days for state and federal water contractors to turn

www.farmprogress.com

That was 2007. Both the farms and the fish are fine. If they wipe out the fish, the farms will still run short of water, but there will never be any more fish. File a federal crop insurance Prevent Plant claim and pray for rain.

 

[Larry Caldwell]

Wait did CA just have massive rain/flooding issues? and running out in June?

That story was from 15 years ago.

 

[Jstpssng]

I think that a little levity is appropriate...

 

[JenniferKubotaM62]

That was 2007. Both the farms and the fish are fine. If they wipe out the fish, the farms will still run short of water, but there will never be any more fish. File a federal crop insurance Prevent Plant claim and pray for rain.

1: Oh, so you're saying the politicians intelligence level has greatly increased since 2007 then, that's good to know (however it's false, and getting worse, the chocolate milk issue was today, small gas engine ban is current and I didn't even mention all the nice modern diesel trucks being dumped on Craigslist currently simply cus Kommi DMV refuses to renew their registration, California New 2020 Law Limits Registration of Older Diesel Trucks, Call 408-263-7300).

2: For all you know the farms could have gone bankrupt and been bought up and yes may be running today but at what personal, familial and financial cost previously. (unless you know personally every farmer affected your statements is without merit.

3: Interesting, the only use of that type analogy was related to buying land, they're not making any more of it.... but apparently even the fish are messed up in Cali as apparently they no longer breed, good to know. It's worth noting that the average life of a rainbow smelt is under 3 years, the average life of an affected farmer and all the customers who paid higher prices due to the limited crop runs is between 80-100 years of age. Rainbow Smelt (Estuaries.NOAA.gov) · iNaturalist

4: Some farmers farm for the passion and supplying the country food and sustenance, I doubt any of them when asked in school replied "when I grow up I want to file insurance claims for a living".

 

[JenniferKubotaM62]

That story was from 15 years ago.

What's your point, it doesn't make it any less ridiculous, here, you want something more current (PS: THAT story may have been from 2007 but the smelt have reined king in Cali every year since then.

I present to you...... (it's a good year, I mean century to be a smelt in Cali).

April 17, 2023

Energy Socialism: California electric companies to charge households based on their income​

Energy Socialism: California electric companies to charge households based on their income

Three major utility companies in California have proposed to charge their customers based on their household income. In doing so, the Golden State appears to be racing to run out of both other people's money and electricity.

www.americanexperiment.org

As you read all the search results for this topic you see time and time again comments about the smelt, the impact to them, what happens if they don't have babies, what would a smelt free world be like to live in... but not a single mention of the farmers, grocers, customers, families etc..... says it all right there I reckon.

california water rights smelt - Google Search

 

[JenniferKubotaM62]

I have a lot of deer, and if there is a cougar working the area the dogs will start bringing back kill remnants. When that happens, I strap on a .357. I load FBI rounds, 158 gr. JHP. That's enough to discourage anything I might encounter, and I'm a pretty good shot. I've never had to use it.

Can the cougars read the stamping on the casing or do you have to yell out that they're FBI 158 grain's (wasn't aware the FBI started reloading/making available their own brand of ammo) to discourage them as you put it, just curious....(I'm just playing with you). Federal did make a 158 grain +P in a 38 at one point however. Cheap 38 Special Ammo For Sale - 158 gr +P LSWCHP Federal Law Enforcement Ammunition In Stock - 5f0 rounds

PS: After the Miami shootout and resulting creation of the 357Sig, they've recently gone back to +P 9mm in a G19 as their issue duty weapon, and some carry .40's, FBI can carry what they qualify on). If you see an FBI agent yielding a wheel gun, in 357 or any caliber for that matter, he's retired and LONG AGO retired, watch his sight alignment, he may be pointing towards you and not even know it. LOL

The Reasons Why FBI Went Back to 9mm

The FBI has selected Glock Gen 5 handguns in 9mm as their service weapon. There has been much speculation about the reasons for their caliber change.

sofrep.com

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The .357 SIG is a bottlenecked, high-velocity handgun cartridge designed by a collaboration between SIG Sauer and Federal Ammunition Company in 1994. This came about, much in the same fashion as the .40 Smith and Wesson, as a response to the "poor performance" of 9mm Luger LE loads of the time. Much of this "need" for more effective new handgun cartridges stemmed from the 1986 FBI shootout in Miami, involving two bank robbers and multiple (outgunned) FBI agents. The firearms used were Smith and Wesson Model 13 .357 Magnum revolvers (loaded with .38 Special ammunition) and primarily Smith and Wesson 9mm semi-automatic handguns loaded with Winchester’s 9mm Silvertip 115-grain JHP load.
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Like I said, I'm just having fun... thanks for your posting, i agree... if I go into the woods, I sure as heck am not taking a .380, the bigger the hole, the quicker they bleed out.
Jen

 

[Torvy]

I'll have to ask my friend in the FBI what he carries. I use a 9mm G17. If I know I have a problem critter, I am carrying my Beretta A400 12g semi with the G17 has backup.

 

[Larry Caldwell]

I'll have to ask my friend in the FBI what he carries. I use a 9mm G17. If I know I have a problem critter, I am carrying my Beretta A400 12g semi with the G17 has backup.

My age is showing. The FBI has long since gone to autoloaders. The 158 gr. JHP was 30 years ago. It's still a very capable supersonic load that hits hard. A shotgun is for hunting, not for field work. If I'm going to carry, I want the gun on me, not parked in the pickup because I need both hands free.

 

[Larry Caldwell]

Can the cougars read the stamping on the casing or do you have to yell out that they're FBI 158 grain's (wasn't aware the FBI started reloading/making available their own brand of ammo) to discourage them as you put it, just curious....(I'm just playing with you). Federal did make a 158 grain +P in a 38 at one point however. Cheap 38 Special Ammo For Sale - 158 gr +P LSWCHP Federal Law Enforcement Ammunition In Stock - 5f0 rounds

PS: After the Miami shootout and resulting creation of the 357Sig, they've recently gone back to +P 9mm in a G19 as their issue duty weapon, and some carry .40's, FBI can carry what they qualify on). If you see an FBI agent yielding a wheel gun, in 357 or any caliber for that matter, he's retired and LONG AGO retired, watch his sight alignment, he may be pointing towards you and not even know it. LOL

The Reasons Why FBI Went Back to 9mm

The FBI has selected Glock Gen 5 handguns in 9mm as their service weapon. There has been much speculation about the reasons for their caliber change.

sofrep.com

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The .357 SIG is a bottlenecked, high-velocity handgun cartridge designed by a collaboration between SIG Sauer and Federal Ammunition Company in 1994. This came about, much in the same fashion as the .40 Smith and Wesson, as a response to the "poor performance" of 9mm Luger LE loads of the time. Much of this "need" for more effective new handgun cartridges stemmed from the 1986 FBI shootout in Miami, involving two bank robbers and multiple (outgunned) FBI agents. The firearms used were Smith and Wesson Model 13 .357 Magnum revolvers (loaded with .38 Special ammunition) and primarily Smith and Wesson 9mm semi-automatic handguns loaded with Winchester’s 9mm Silvertip 115-grain JHP load.
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Like I said, I'm just having fun... thanks for your posting, i agree... if I go into the woods, I sure as heck am not taking a .380, the bigger the hole, the quicker they bleed out.
Jen

A .38 spl is a popgun, nice for plinking and target practice, but not very useful if you have to actually shoot something. The 9mm Luger is a little hotter, about equivalent to a .38 +P. The .357 Sig was an attempt to match .357 S&W performance in a rimless cartridge that would feed in an autoloader. I have a .44 magnum too, but the .357 is my go-to gun if I want to hit what I am shooting at. The guy in the video was too freaked to stand still and aim his shotgun, much less take follow-up shots.

 

[Larry Caldwell]

What's your point, it doesn't make it any less ridiculous, here, you want something more current (PS: THAT story may have been from 2007 but the smelt have reined king in Cali every year since then.

I present to you...... (it's a good year, I mean century to be a smelt in Cali).

April 17, 2023

Energy Socialism: California electric companies to charge households based on their income​

Energy Socialism: California electric companies to charge households based on their income

Three major utility companies in California have proposed to charge their customers based on their household income. In doing so, the Golden State appears to be racing to run out of both other people's money and electricity.

www.americanexperiment.org

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As you read all the search results for this topic you see time and time again comments about the smelt, the impact to them, what happens if they don't have babies, what would a smelt free world be like to live in... but not a single mention of the farmers, grocers, customers, families etc..... says it all right there I reckon.

california water rights smelt - Google Search

My point is that you don't own the water, so you can stand in line like everybody else, including the wildlife.