Bed usefulness with goosneck trailer hooked up.

[dkhntr04]

Thanks for the replies. I'll try to answer all the questions and fill in some blanks.

My truck weighs in at 7200# on a scale. GVWR is 9990# If I remember correctly. That gives me around 2900# for me, tools, and pin weight. Might be cutting it close. I will need to go to the elevator and check where I am at on axle weights.

I hold a class A CDL and drove truck in the logging and construction industries. I have backed 48-53' trailers into dozens of places your normal weekend/ occasional trailer tower would be hard pressed to get into with a 20' trailer. Size, length, turning radius, trailer cheat are all non-issues for me.

I did some reading on B&W's website last night. Looks like the center of the ball would be 49" from the rear of the bed. Should be ample room for my welder and generator in the rear of the bed. I would probably be ok on the cargo space. Some stuff would get moved to the trailer neck if need be.

I am not changing tow vehicles, this truck has been excellent and tows the weights I need it to right now well. I am waiting to find some more land before I upgrade tow vehicles. If that happens I will be buying a semi, hopper bottom, and a 48 or 53' drop- deck. For the money of a medium duty truck and a 24k goose, or a decent diesel one-ton, you can get heavier equipment and not be hand-cuffed by small payload capacity.

What am I hauling? Primarily my 3720, but there is more to the story. My furthest field is 50 miles away from home base. I use the 3720 for most things there. I'd like to get the tractor and 3-4 implements in one load when I have dirt and tree work to do there. The tractor and semi-mount 6 row 22" planter are 20+ feet long and heavy. I also want to be able to haul the tractor and 42' sprayer along with two IBC totes with 550 gallons of water plus chemicals. My current trailer could handle the weight, I just cannot get the proper balance with the short bed and the limitations of 1400# max tounge weight. I also want to mount a gravity box or drill-fill box on the trailer for hauling seed and grain. 200 bu. with container could weigh around 12k if totally full (not planning on it). I also haul a variety of equipment from mini-excavators and skidsteers, and want capacity to haul a 80-100hp tractor.

 

[Soundguy]

i have a 99 f450 that has 3 tool boxes in tghe bed. 1 by the cab, and 2 along the sides.. slimmer.. delta boxes on the sides.

i can put stuff like a 15g air tank up front or side of the gn pin.. plus i usually have a winch, battery and cribbing in there too. I actually can carry a good amount behind the pin.

one thing some of us GN trailer owners do is build decking on top of the gn frame for some items.. just keep in mind total height..

bed space will depend of the forward fram of your gn

I'm considering getting a new trailer. My needs are outgrowing my 17+3' PJ 14k bumper-pull deckover and I am looking at getting something 20+5 or 25+5. My pickup is the service truck for my farming operation, so I really love the bumper pull for the fact that I can throw the welder, generator, torch, fuel, and tools in the bed of the truck when hooked up to my trailer. I know that getting the tongue weight right is going to limit how well I can utilize a longer trailer deck, hence I am looking at goosenecks.

Tow vehicle is a 2007 Chevy 2500HD Ext cab with 8' bed, 6.0, 4x4, 4.10. I have a 21" Weatherguard cross-bed box in the truck at all times as well. Mainly I need space in the bed for a 6500 watt generator and 4-5 items about 18" cubed (compressor, welder, toolboxes). I can get creative with mounting and reducing volume.

What are your experiences with hauling stuff in the bed with a goose hooked up? Pics of the bed with stuff in it would be excellent. Thanks.

 

[RedNeckRacin]

Let me chime in a little bit more then. I used to tow my 5083E with a one ton pickup SRW and it was nerve racking at best. On the flat land it wasn't to eventful except stopping, up and down hills were another issue. I have since sold that truck and upgraded to a Medium duty international truck and have not looked back except for missing the 4wd. (I agree whole heartedly about upgrading to a semi and I am looking into ways to do just that.) Your well into needing a GN for a 3/4t with 12k behind you. It sounds like your going to be over your GCWR though. I was with my one ton and my 83hp tractor. Just something to think about.

 

[dkhntr04]

12k payload would definitely be over GCWR, but I'm not planning on doing that except maybe at harvest for a slow 45 mph trip to the elevator 7 miles away. I feel that would be safer than 12k in a gravity wagon with zero weight on the truck and old implement tires.

For the record, I also live in one of the flattest places you will find. Average elevation change around here is about 1' per mile.

 

[RedNeckRacin]

AH, lucky you. I have a particular distrust of farm wagons with tongues. They are a treat all their own. I would also suggest looking at the weights of the 80-100hp tractors that you mentioned. They dont look heavy but they sure are. Couple wheel weights, some fluid in the tires, and some suitcase weights and your in for a load, esp the older iron. I'm pretty jealous of the flat land towing though!

You get a gold star for the day by already having your class a cdl btw! Majority of people don't have the first inkling about what is required to be legal on the road when towing any appreciable weight let alone doing it safely.

 

[dkhntr04]

I would also suggest looking at the weights of the 80-100hp tractors that you mentioned.

I sure have. If I do buy a tractor this small (if I need to keep my operation trailer mobile), safe hauling will be high on the list of criteria.

Soundguy, thank you for your reply. That was exactly the info I was looking for.

 

[wmonroe]

I have a 20'+5' gooseneck and won't go back to a bumper pull now. The gn is more maneuverable but like was also mentioned it cuts corners when turning. I have not run out of bed space yet or built a storage area on the pin of the trailer. This won't be a popular option here but you can increase your registered weight to legally haul the loaded trailer, just make sure you are not over your axle or tire weights. I have been stopped at roadside trailer check points before and they check registered gvw of the truck, registered combined weight, axle weights, and individual tire weights.

 

[minner]

I went through the same thing recently. I had an 18' bumper pull but on days were I needed multiple attachments I was out of luck, not to mention what I did manage to get on the trailer meant a balancing act to make it safe. I eventually sold the trailer and went to a 14k 25+5 gooseneck. With my M7040 and attachments my loads are repetitive so it's a good fit. I would never go back to a BP for equipment transportation but I still like a BP for hauling misc loads.
BTW my tow vehicle is 6.7L F250 and it does fine. Next summer I mag add bags to refine the ride but they aren't really necessary to get the job done.

 

[Soundguy]

i think I've use dmy bumper pull trailer 2 times since I got my gn. 1 of those 2 was to loan it to a buddy...

I went through the same thing recently. I had an 18' bumper pull but on days were I needed multiple attachments I was out of luck, not to mention what I did manage to get on the trailer meant a balancing act to make it safe. I eventually sold the trailer and went to a 14k 25+5 gooseneck. With my M7040 and attachments my loads are repetitive so it's a good fit. I would never go back to a BP for equipment transportation but I still like a BP for hauling misc loads.
BTW my tow vehicle is 6.7L F250 and it does fine. Next summer I mag add bags to refine the ride but they aren't really necessary to get the job done.

 

[edkemper]

I bought a 30+8 14,000# twin axle GN. I drive an 07 GMC 2500HD CC/LB. Haven't had it fully max loaded but have hauled enough to know I like having the space and the GN. I can't put a full sheet of plywood in the bed while attached but I don't need to do that. I can keep quite a bit of stuff in the bed when towing. I just ordered a GN 14,000# 14 ft dump trailer. I have the reversible ball B&W mount. If I need a bumper pull for something I'll rent one. Otherwise, I'll enjoy my goosenecks that seem to disappear except around corners.