Oh Dave, if you only knew me. I'm such a stinkin pacifist it's ridiculous. I don't ever kill bees, yellowjackets and sometimes wasps excluded, but hey, they started it. Other then that, I grab spiders and moths etc. by hand and toss them out the door. So those are a bunch of females. I always figured they were males, you know workers, boy, what a Chauvanist attitude with a capitol C, Patricia Ireland, I'm so sorry. Still here hanging around at 4:52:25 PM. Temeperature is 98.2 (in a metal overhead awning), humidity is 26%, 977 mb pressure, moon is about 1/4, I love my Oregon Scientific radio controlled satellite clock desktop thingamajig. Rat...