Beginners dumb luck!

[newbury]

Plus - if you can push it over - when you cut it up you can be pretty sure where it will fall.

 

[Hematite]

Plus - if you can push it over - when you cut it up you can be pretty sure where it will fall.

Yes, and that is a very good point. There is much more control of where the tree is going when digging the roots and pushing over.

 

[lungdoc]

I'd make 2 points
1) They don't call them widowmakers for nothing - be VERY careful of dead/broken or hanging branches. I wouldn't think of doing that without a cab or at least a canopy + a hardhat. Pulling with a rope tied higher in the tree and routed to a snatch block so not pullin to you can be a safer option. Cutting it off and grinding the stump is another.
2) If you go to cut stump off of pushed over trees, especially if pushed over by serious heavy equipment, be very careful as tree can store huge forces and snap or move in deadly ways. Very similar to storm-felled tangled trees that way.

 

[dcyrilc]

I'd make 2 points
1) They don't call them widowmakers for nothing - be VERY careful of dead/broken or hanging branches. I wouldn't think of doing that without a cab or at least a canopy + a hardhat. Pulling with a rope tied higher in the tree and routed to a snatch block so not pullin to you can be a safer option. Cutting it off and grinding the stump is another.
2) If you go to cut stump off of pushed over trees, especially if pushed over by serious heavy equipment, be very careful as tree can store huge forces and snap or move in deadly ways. Very similar to storm-felled tangled trees that way.

Is there such a thing as a PTO driven 3PH stump grinder?

 

[oliver28472]

My cousin had one. Made by Vermeer.

 

[Botabill]

One of the serious lessons I've learned when taking trees down is don't rock them. Sure enough when you do they'll bust loose on the back swing and go down in the opposite direction you want it to go. I had one huge elm decide to let loose towards my barn full of equipment. Luckily it got caught up in another big tree but the rest of the day became really complicated.

 

[Hematite]

I'd make 2 points
1) They don't call them widowmakers for nothing - be VERY careful of dead/broken or hanging branches. I wouldn't think of doing that without a cab or at least a canopy + a hardhat. Pulling with a rope tied higher in the tree and routed to a snatch block so not pullin to you can be a safer option. Cutting it off and grinding the stump is another.
2) If you go to cut stump off of pushed over trees, especially if pushed over by serious heavy equipment, be very careful as tree can store huge forces and snap or move in deadly ways. Very similar to storm-felled tangled trees that way.

Yes, those are 2 very good points!

 

[Hematite]

One of the serious lessons I've learned when taking trees down is don't rock them. Sure enough when you do they'll bust loose on the back swing and go down in the opposite direction you want it to go. I had one huge elm decide to let loose towards my barn full of equipment. Luckily it got caught up in another big tree but the rest of the day became really complicated.

Yes, for sure. That's what was scaring me about this tree/ root cluster. When I rocked it towards the way I wanted it to fall and I backed off, it rocked back towards me and the tractor a little more each time. That's when I decided that I was not going to pursue pushing it over and let Nature take it's course.