I have an 8N and I am currently looking at different hay balers for it. I understand the low hp will greatly limit my choices and I will need to look for fairly old machines. I am thinking along the lines of a New Holland 65 or 273 or a John Deere 14T or 24T. Anyone have any experience with an 8N and one of these balers? Anyone have experience using a baler on an 8N using a Sherman or Hupp in under-drive? I am thinking with one of the under-drive units would allow for maximum engine power at 540 PTO speed making use of a baler more practical. I have seen a few members on here are baling hay with similar sized tractors and would appreciate any input.
Best hay baler for an 8N
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Carykong
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check out this youtube clip 1950 8N baling hay
YouTube - Baling Hay with the 1950 Ford 8N & NH Hayliner 68 Baler
YouTube - Baling Hay with the 1950 Ford 8N & NH Hayliner 68 Baler
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My neighbor has an 8N and ran an IH57 wire-tie small square baler without an over running clutch on the pto shaft. Bad mistake. He got the baler working OK but when he tried to stop it, he twisted the pto shaft inside the tractor into a corkscrew. That flywheel has lotsa inertia and you need that over running clutch to protect your pto system.
My baler is a Massey Ferguson 124 two-twine small baler that I run with my Mahindra 5525 (54 hp engine, 45 hp pto, 2WD, gear tranny). The recommended hp for the 124 is 35 pto hp, but you could run it with a smaller tractor like your 8N. The spinning flywheel would jerk an 8N around quite a bit.
Good luck with your baler search.
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If you go that route, Be sure to have plenty of ballast on the tractor and if the baler does not have override on the flywheel, you will probably want one on the tractor. Definitely would not operate on hilly fields. Be Careful !! Ken Sweet
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When we baled with an 8n,9n we used a baler with its own motor,I wouldn't even try it any other way.NO live pto.......baler is going to stop everytime you push the clutch in,or its going to drive the tractor...either way NOT GOOD.
MikeInEburg
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Years ago we tried to bale with 8N. We had to knock it out of gear every time we wanted the baler to "catch up". We'd then have to clutch, reverse a bit so the baler wouldn't have anything to eat for a couple of feet, the start forward again. That was on fairly flat ground. Can't imagine this combo on a hillside. Go significantly larger or have someone bale for you. 8N is perfect for running an old hay rake.
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yep.. i'd get one with a wisconsin engine.
the N's non live pto is more of a detriment than it's hp..
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the N's non live pto is more of a detriment than it's hp..
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How close would the New Holland 65 and 273 be in hp requirements? I would definitely be using an ORV and the land around here is extremely flat. Lack of a live PTO wouldn't be much of a problem as long as I don't make the windrows to heavy to avoid plugging. I would be baling only a few acres and dropping the bales to the ground. Any one with experience using a Sherman or Hupp in under-drive to get a bit more hp? (I wonder why Ford geared the PTO for 540 at 1500 engine rpm?)
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plugging is the MAIN concern. once it starts to plug you either stall out plugged, or you have to clutch, shift out of gear and unclutch in a split second to allow it to clear when you have a non live pto AND low hp.. 