firefighter jim
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I hear ya! Unfortunately our drive is over 1/4 mile long. Can't afford to pave that much driveway!
Best time for gravel?
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I hear ya! Unfortunately our drive is over 1/4 mile long. Can't afford to pave that much driveway!
Bumble Guy
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The measerment I use in my asphalt paving business is you take sq feet divide it by 65 and get tonage at 3 inches,so 10,000 divided by 65 =153.8 ,lay down gravel is fine,year round as long as ground is not soft,like jello when tractor drives on it,min of 6 inches gravel,I get gravel in northern Illinois for 5 to 7 doollers a ton picked up at quary
firefighter9208
Platinum Member
Last summer I paid $6.00 a ton for #57 stone at the quarry. $6.50 a ton washed. Dense grade base 2" down to dust was $6.00 a ton. #87 washed were $8.00 a ton.
A local contractor will deliver #57 or base for $12.00 a ton and he gives me the weight ticket to pay by. 20 ton equals $240.00
I have a single axle truck w/a 30,000# GVW and I can pay him to haul it to me as cheap as I can go and buy it myself. I have to make 2 trips to haul the same amount that he can haul in one.
He will also haul you a tandem axle dump load of chert for $100.00 a load. And he loads heavy. It will be rounded up on the truck. No weight ticket on that, as he owns the chert pit.
Chris
A local contractor will deliver #57 or base for $12.00 a ton and he gives me the weight ticket to pay by. 20 ton equals $240.00
I have a single axle truck w/a 30,000# GVW and I can pay him to haul it to me as cheap as I can go and buy it myself. I have to make 2 trips to haul the same amount that he can haul in one.
He will also haul you a tandem axle dump load of chert for $100.00 a load. And he loads heavy. It will be rounded up on the truck. No weight ticket on that, as he owns the chert pit.
Chris
RadarTech
Elite Member
Guys,
This all makes me ask...
in my area there are 3 quarries..
is it common to see non-commercial trucks getting gravel in the actual quarries?
I need maybe 2 yards of riprap (2 areas in ditches I want to beef up)--- and another 4 or so of crusher run (to cover dirt places in an area where drainage was bad) and then maybe a 2 yards or so of railroad ballast (base for the crusher run)...
I don't know the measurements all of you have used, but everyone around here calls it by these names...
With seasons hopefully changing, I had thought of renting a small dump trailer and doing this myself (and sparing the driveway the dumptruck weight)....
or does everyone just get larger loads delivered?
what do all of you do?
J
This all makes me ask...
in my area there are 3 quarries..
is it common to see non-commercial trucks getting gravel in the actual quarries?
I need maybe 2 yards of riprap (2 areas in ditches I want to beef up)--- and another 4 or so of crusher run (to cover dirt places in an area where drainage was bad) and then maybe a 2 yards or so of railroad ballast (base for the crusher run)...
I don't know the measurements all of you have used, but everyone around here calls it by these names...
With seasons hopefully changing, I had thought of renting a small dump trailer and doing this myself (and sparing the driveway the dumptruck weight)....
or does everyone just get larger loads delivered?
what do all of you do?
J
CurlyDave
Elite Member
For the quantities you need, a dump trailer may be the right way to go, although 4 yards of crusher run is going to exceed the weight capacity of most dump trailers and pickups. 2 yards is probably the weight limit, although you will be well under the volume the trailer can hold.
In the SF Bay area dump trailers rent for ~125/day. Four trips in one day should not be a problem if the quarries are nearby.
I keep my speed down to 45 mph or less with 2 yards of rock in my dump trailer. You will be amazed at how much rock weighs.
I see private trucks and dump trailers at the quarry almost every time I go there. Just take your place in line with the big boys. When the guy with the front loader picks up less than a full scoop to fill your trailer you will have some size envy, but your money is just as green as anyone's.
Before I got a dump trailer I would take the pickup and get maybe 3/4 yard of rock in the bed. No one ever said it was too small, or not to come back, even though it was a very small load. Now, shoveling it out of the bed was a chore for sure.
In the SF Bay area dump trailers rent for ~125/day. Four trips in one day should not be a problem if the quarries are nearby.
I keep my speed down to 45 mph or less with 2 yards of rock in my dump trailer. You will be amazed at how much rock weighs.
I see private trucks and dump trailers at the quarry almost every time I go there. Just take your place in line with the big boys. When the guy with the front loader picks up less than a full scoop to fill your trailer you will have some size envy, but your money is just as green as anyone's.
Before I got a dump trailer I would take the pickup and get maybe 3/4 yard of rock in the bed. No one ever said it was too small, or not to come back, even though it was a very small load. Now, shoveling it out of the bed was a chore for sure.
AchingBack
Veteran Member
If black shale is anything like the scarce pink shale we sometimes find available here in Southern Oregon, you can't beat it. This is the first I've heard of black shale. How many have heard of pink shale?
The high content of silt is what makes this such an excellent road surface. Silt really packs tightly, and easily sheds water.
RadarTech
Elite Member
Dave,
I am expecting to just get a single axle dump.. and they tell me it holds 2.6 yards...(my little tacoma is only rated for 6500 lb towing.)
the local sunbelt has this trailer for $67 a day and $180 for a week..
and there are 4 quarries within short driving times.
1 is 5 miles, and the farthest is 35 miles.
The sunbelt manager has given me weekly discounts a few times, and it might even be lower than $180..
So as soon as the weather breaks and I can get some time... I'll get on it!
J
I am expecting to just get a single axle dump.. and they tell me it holds 2.6 yards...(my little tacoma is only rated for 6500 lb towing.)
the local sunbelt has this trailer for $67 a day and $180 for a week..
and there are 4 quarries within short driving times.
1 is 5 miles, and the farthest is 35 miles.
The sunbelt manager has given me weekly discounts a few times, and it might even be lower than $180..
So as soon as the weather breaks and I can get some time... I'll get on it!
J
Egon
Epic Contributor
There may be times when the bigger truck with all the right gear will be well worth the extra cost in speed and convince and no hassle with overloaded equipment, failed tires Etc.
patrick_g
Elite Member
I sometimes envy you folks who live in or near civilization due to the availability of STUFF. My choices are natural river rock, not crushed (which never packs worth a darn and I never use it, crushed limestone, shale, or test batches of blacktop from a paving plant 25 miles away. When they are making test runs adjusting their process they generate substandard blacktop paving material that is sold off sometimes I am told but have not confirmed.
When I had a long term lease on recreational land in Baja California, Mexico the development had some maintained dirt roads. They planned on paving some with "soil cement" whatever that is. It was supposed to be an economical paving process for less traveled roads Z(less than the main highway.)
OK, I went to Google and read about soil cement. Might be a mid cost option for driveways.
Pat
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patrick_g
Elite Member
I own a small dump trailer (12x7x2 feet rated 10K lbs) and I get my gravel delivered. Too many trips with small trailer is not worth the hassle. I have used it for graveling a drive and it sprinkles it out really neat but I fill the trailer with my FEL. A semi can haul about 27 tons compared to my say 4 tons or less. I'd have to make 6-7 trips to equal one trip for the truck. There is time, fuel, wear on truck and trailer which I'd rather not do myself, just pay the man and get on with the project. Like concrete, I have a mixer but if I need multiple yards I get it delivered.
You can DIY but you will not pay yourself much for your time and labor.
Pat