big bucket on a compact tractor

[bigbosee]

I have a McCormick CT36 tractor that has a L105 loader and a 7'bucket.
My freind says the bucket is way to big for this rig,any suggestions.

 

[SLHawkins]

Yeah, that seems a little large. What is the cubic capacity of the bucket? If it is a shallow bucket, you may be be alright. According to tractordata.com, the width of the CT36 is 66.5 inches. I recommend going down to a 6' bucket. Unless dealing with light material (mulch or feed) in an open space, it is preferable for the bucket to extend past the width of the tires by a few inches. Otherwise, you will find your yourself getting the bucket caught on fences posts, edges of buildings, and other items you would rather not bump into.

When dealing with heavier material, in addition to significantly throwing off the center-of-gravity, you will find that you often will exceed the capacity of the loader hydraulics.

Your dealer should be able to get a 6' bucket for the loader. Did you buy it from a dealer like that?

Hawk

 

[Thomas]

Bucket might work good for pushing snowing.

Dirt rocks etc. I wouldn't dare to fill than travel,might bend or break arm piston etc...lot of weight up front.

 

[LD1]

Yeah, that seems a little large. What is the cubic capacity of the bucket? If it is a shallow bucket, you may be be alright. According to tractordata.com, the width of the CT36 is 66.5 inches. I recommend going down to a 6' bucket. Unless dealing with light material (mulch or feed) in an open space, it is preferable for the bucket to extend past the width of the tires by a few inches. Otherwise, you will find your yourself getting the bucket caught on fences posts, edges of buildings, and other items you would rather not bump into.

When dealing with heavier material, in addition to significantly throwing off the center-of-gravity, you will find that you often will exceed the capacity of the loader hydraulics.

Your dealer should be able to get a 6' bucket for the loader. Did you buy it from a dealer like that?

Hawk

:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

good advice

 

[FritzII]

I have the same tractor with the std 66 inch bucket. To try and keep the rear end on the ground, I have the rear tires loaded and a box blade mounted. The rear tires will still come off the ground. Be careful with that large bucket !!! As others mentioned, it may overload the hydraulics or damage the arms if you're loading heavy material.

 

[Sonny580]

A bucket THAT size is no good for snow either!---lotta wet weight hanging over the front end!---good way to trash a good tractor engine/trans./rear end/ etc!---how do I know?---currenty trying to repair a small tractor that USED to have loader with 7 1/2 foot bucket on it!---finally they blew the engine and trans. rammin the poor thing into stuff!---mostly snow! thanks; sonny

 

[SLHawkins]

Sonny,
'Rammin the poor thing into stuff' is your culprit, not the bucket. Even with a small bucket, you'll mess up the transmission and engine by ramming the tractor into stuff!!

Hawk

 

[PILOON]

Around here we have 2 sizes of buckets.
The factory one and a larger one that the locals call a snow bucket.

It is all in the bucket weight capacity. Snow weighs less than earth or sand etc.
While snow is basically water in an expanded form it still weighs less than sand, gravel or earth.

 

[Sonny580]

Smaller bucket =more passes,---BUT not as hard on equipment!---We used to have "cob buckets" here to load corncobs from the sheller piles by cribs, and they were big dudes, but cobs were super light so you really had to have big bucket!---as for snow?---no! the smaller bucket works best!--snow might be a little lighter than dirt, BUT factor in the extra weight and thickness of the metal of the big bucket and your right up to the overload point!--Follow???? thanks; sonny

 

[bigbosee]

I have the same tractor with the std 66 inch bucket. To try and keep the rear end on the ground, I have the rear tires loaded and a box blade mounted. The rear tires will still come off the ground. Be careful with that large bucket !!! As others mentioned, it may overload the hydraulics or damage the arms if you're loading heavy material.

The tires are loaded and I tried moving some cement road blend with the 7'
bucket being carefull not to fill the bucket and going real slow and it was
difficult to keep the rear tires on the ground when I stoped . I have ordered
a 66"bucket but i am betting it will still have the same problem.Have you ever
considered rear wheel weights?

 

[gengine]

I'm sorry sonny, but I still don't agree with ya. Earth is way heavier than snow. I clear snow in the winters when the mine is shut down. Our snow buckets are about twice the size of our dirt buckets. A cubic yard of road base is about 1400 lbs. I've never weighed one, but I would guess that a cubic yard of snow is probably half that. The thing about farm tractor buckets and loaders is, they really aren't made for digging. They do loose material real well. Cobs, gravel, etc. Even topsoil that has been sitting for a couple weeks may be too hard. As for the OP, I would recommend the 6' bucket, but keep the other for wintertime or, if your handy with a torch and a welder, make it the size you want.

 

[LD1]

A cubic yard of road base is about 1400 lbs.

Are you sure:confused2:

I am not sure what exactally "road base" is, but dirt/earth weighs closer to 2500lbs

 

[FritzII]

The tires are loaded and I tried moving some cement road blend with the 7'
bucket being carefull not to fill the bucket and going real slow and it was
difficult to keep the rear tires on the ground when I stoped . I have ordered
a 66"bucket but i am betting it will still have the same problem.Have you ever
considered rear wheel weights?

No. I'm used to it now. I pay a lot of attention to it when I've got the bucket filled. I could put some cement blocks on top of the box blade if I wanted to.

 

[toxicjeeper]

either way snow ways a heck of alot less than earth, gravel, etc...we use snow buckets here too..heck look at the pushers on front of the tractors that clean the mall parking lots....yes they are not buckets per say but when they are piling it they are still lifting weight...

 

[k0ua]

Are you sure:confused2:

I am not sure what exactally "road base" is, but dirt/earth weighs closer to 2500lbs

I call road base the 0 to 3/4 inch crushed limestone. It packs really well.
That would weight at a mininum 130 lbs per cubic foot to 145 lbs per cubic foot. so 27X 130= 3510 lbs to 3915lbs per cubic yard. depending on the density of the limestone and how well it was packed. Maybe we are not talking about the same thing here.:confused3:

Just found some other figures for crushed limestone at 94 lbs per cubic foot. so 27X94=2538.. so it may vary quite a bit by area or how much is limestone and how much is flint rock.. Don"t. know..

James K0UA

 

[SPYDERLK]

I call road base the 0 to 3/4 inch crushed limestone. It packs really well.
That would weight at a mininum 130 lbs per cubic foot to 145 lbs per cubic foot. so 27X 130= 3510 lbs to 3915lbs per cubic yard. depending on the density of the limestone and how well it was packed. Maybe we are not talking about the same thing here.:confused3:

Just found some other figures for crushed limestone at 94 lbs per cubic foot. so 27X94=2538.. so it may vary quite a bit by area or how much is limestone and how much is flint rock.. Don"t. know..

James K0UA

They are probably accounting for air spaces when it is not packed. 100#+ is too easy to pass up for a workable approximation. Thats what Im going to use.
larry

 

[LD1]

I call road base the 0 to 3/4 inch crushed limestone. It packs really well.
That would weight at a mininum 130 lbs per cubic foot to 145 lbs per cubic foot. so 27X 130= 3510 lbs to 3915lbs per cubic yard. depending on the density of the limestone and how well it was packed. Maybe we are not talking about the same thing here.:confused3:

Just found some other figures for crushed limestone at 94 lbs per cubic foot. so 27X94=2538.. so it may vary quite a bit by area or how much is limestone and how much is flint rock.. Don"t. know..

James K0UA

They are probably accounting for air spaces when it is not packed. 100#+ is too easy to pass up for a workable approximation. Thats what Im going to use.
larry

Either way, the OP is talking about "road base" weighing 1400lb/yd. which is a bit light for anything I'd call "road Base".