Bigger alternator

   / Bigger alternator #11  
We mount an electric winch on the back of my 1845, in the 2" receiver. It has its own battery, which is short lived, supplemented by jumper cables to the PT.
A thought. If you mount a winch on a frame with a couple of batteries, you can carry it into position with the PT and chain the winch to a tree. Our winch will drag the 1845 before moving some of the heavier logs, so a nearby tree is often used anyway.
 
   / Bigger alternator #12  
BAGTIC said:
I think I want more alternator/battery capacityfor use with sprayers, seeders, winches, etc. Is it possible to replace the little 20 ampere alternator with something larger; also, a larger battery?

Battery would not seem a problem as there seems to be room.
My original Robin voltage regulator was the larger 30 amp model. I went through two of them in less than a year. The smaller 15 amp model is considerably less expensive and has kept working for over three years.

The 30 amp Robin V/R is approximately $125. 30 amp part number is 263-71902-A1.

Dale
 
   / Bigger alternator #13  
Charlie_Iliff said:
We mount an electric winch on the back of my 1845, in the 2" receiver. It has its own battery, which is short lived, supplemented by jumper cables to the PT.
A thought. If you mount a winch on a frame with a couple of batteries, you can carry it into position with the PT and chain the winch to a tree. Our winch will drag the 1845 before moving some of the heavier logs, so a nearby tree is often used anyway.

That seems like a good method.
 
   / Bigger alternator #14  
I know, I'm replying to an old post, but these archives get used and I'm digging into winches at the moment because I've got both a spare Mile Marker 9000lb hydraulic and a 3000lb gorilla electric ATV winch hanging around and am deciding which (if either) to put on a impliment plate for the PT. The concern about power output and winches is a good one, but there are many ATV winches out there and most ATV's have 20amp or less alternators. Yep, don't want to work them all day, but I'd think a few pulls here or there should be fine off the stock PT power system. Just turn your lights off first.

I do like the idea of putting some teath on the mounting plate so you can have the plate dig in and take the force of the pull if you are mounting on the FEL and not on the rear of the PT.

Wireless remotes or 10' control leads for ATV winches are generally only $20-$40 more, so you can get out of line of the cable cheaper than you can build a protector screen.

Here's a link to a popular, super affordable ATV winch....
Gorilla Winch Professional Series Waterproof 2500lb ATV Winch

When comparing vs the price of the PT winch, unless you are going to work it very hard, very often I think I'd go with an electric ATV winch.
 
   / Bigger alternator #15  
I bought one of those gorilla winches with the remote controls. They are reasonable for what you pay. I hardly use it now that i have the gas portable winch - unlimited rope length capable, constant pulling force, and runs as long as i have gas. I had planned on getting a hydraulic winch for the pt instead of the electric but now i do not have to tie up my hydraulics just because i need to winch something. It is nice to be able to use both the winch and the grapple bucket or regular bucket at the same time when doing firewood for example. And i can use the winch without the pt as well. I was doing the same thing with the electric winch but those large deep cycle batteries get heavy caring them through the woods.

Ken
 
   / Bigger alternator #16  
I bought one of those gorilla winches with the remote controls. They are reasonable for what you pay. I hardly use it now that i have the gas portable winch - unlimited rope length capable, constant pulling force, and runs as long as i have gas. I had planned on getting a hydraulic winch for the pt instead of the electric but now i do not have to tie up my hydraulics just because i need to winch something. It is nice to be able to use both the winch and the grapple bucket or regular bucket at the same time when doing firewood for example. And i can use the winch without the pt as well. I was doing the same thing with the electric winch but those large deep cycle batteries get heavy caring them through the woods.

Ken

Do you use the PT to carry the winch and then tie it to a tree or something?
 
   / Bigger alternator #17  
Ken and I have 65 Amp alternators, but I have a cheapo winch I got from HF. Basically I ran some heavy gauge wire to the front and rear of the tractor. I put in a relay and (this is an 1850 thing) I converted the switch that turns on and off the hydraulic seat to turn on and off this electrical outlet. I use trailer connectors and put a connector on the front and rear of the PT. I then put the matching connector on my sprayer and on my winch. So flip the switch and off you go.

Now, on my Winch, I had some small lengths of chain, so I bolted the chain to the winch. Ken had very kindly had a BUNCH of hooks welded to our PT's so you can put the chain in the chain hooks so it is easy to just drag the winch out to where I am stuck and hook it the chains in.

Did what I say make sense?
 
   / Bigger alternator #18  
Did what I say make sense?

No, but TVA spilled a billion -- as in B not M illion -- gallons of fly ash sludge into the Clinch River here, and today I saw three guys out in a blizzard trying to vacuum a few scraps of it up along the shore of Watts Bar reservoir with a giant four wheel drive Hoover, all on the taxpayer's dime. Talk about really sucking.

So, in a perverse way, it really doesn't matter any more because nothing makes sense these days. I just go to the bank and see how much money I don't have left, and then I notice how fast the feds are spending the stuff they don't have either, and I think what's the point. It's all kind of like owning a Power Trac. No matter what you do, it's gonna break again sooner or later, and TVA is going to raise our electric rates to pay for the clean up and the bonuses the ladled out. Because of that, I won't be able to afford to run the welder to fix the beast, and the cycle goes on.

Maybe we should all apply for a bailout.
 
   / Bigger alternator #19  
Do you use the PT to carry the winch and then tie it to a tree or something?

The winch weighs 32 lbs so sometimes i just carry it and a sack of rope, etc. into the woods and pull out logs. Most often though, i have it in my bucket or trailer with chainsaws, extra chain saw chains, fuel, etc. and get it close with the pt or atv. Right now, i am pulling stuff out ~ 700' downhill from the house.

The winch has hooks on it for strapping it to a tree or has a ball mount or a 2" receiver mount. I have yet to use the ball or receiver mount since it is so easy to strap to a tree but i can imagine situations where it would be useful.

Two different owners across the street got their cars off into a deep ditch alongside their driveway, buried up to the frame in mud. First time, there was enough room to drive by it with my pt with the tire chains and i was able to pull him out. The second time, the vehicle was too crosswise to the driveway to get by. So i just got the gas winch and walked around, hooked it up to a tree and pulled him out. I had thought about these winches for a few years and really kick myself for not getting one earlier and "wasting" my money on the electric one.

Ken
 
   / Bigger alternator #20  
Hi Carl,

Welding those hooks onto the PT frame really was money well spent :)

Ken
 

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