bigtiller
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Why do you want to take money from them? Gotcha?Costing 'me and you,' because they're spending money 'me and you' can't take from them. Gotcha.
Billionaire Space Shots
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You wrote that you "wonder how much these trips cost ME & YOU through tax breaks and wright-offs."
My point is that tax breaks and write-offs should not COST anything to 'ME & YOU.' If you're thinking that 'ME & YOU' somehow get to keep the money they would pay in taxes without tax breaks and write-offs, then I think your thinking is typical of a keynesian economics worldview that thinks 'ME & YOU' get richer if these guys are taxed more.
'Typical' brought forth my comment, "Gotcha," meaning I don't agree but don't care to argue.
I don't know where Branson or Musk stand on many issues, but I do know that I believe Bezos supports totalitarian, fascist, socialist political structures that I find highly objectionable. So, I try to steer MY money away from his businesses wherever possible.
The fact that these three men are fixated with space travel does not bother me at all, as long as it is THEIR money.
rekees4300
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4 days, July 20, to go until Jeff Bezos takes off. The mission will include the youngest and oldest passengers ever to go into space. Youngest is 18, oldest is 82.
Blue Origin’s final passenger for its first human spaceflight will be 18-year-old Oliver Daemen – TechCrunch
Blue Origin’s final passenger for its first human spaceflight will be 18-year-old Oliver Daemen – TechCrunch
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I read the entire trip will last 10 minutes. Is that true?
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Off topic somewhat but how about a "hundredaire" space flight?
As a kid I was always ordering stuff from Edmund Scientific (in Barrington NJ I think).
I ordered a weather balloon then spent the day using Mom's vacuum cleaner, hose connected to exhaust, inflating it.
Finally it was "YUGE!"
Then what to do. It wasn't a windy day but hard holding onto, of course no lift but bulky.
We lived in the country but off of a major highway so I decided if I could get it down our long driveway across the road was my best friend and he'd be amazed. Somehow I made it...cars blowing horns, people yelling!
Luckily my friend was home and amazed...until it snagged on a telephone pole ripping it apart, but well worth it.
Always curious if you had a big pasture and enough helium to lift your weight less 10 pounds strapped to a body harness what it would be like. Not enough lift but close enough you'd feel weightless.
As a kid I was always ordering stuff from Edmund Scientific (in Barrington NJ I think).
I ordered a weather balloon then spent the day using Mom's vacuum cleaner, hose connected to exhaust, inflating it.
Finally it was "YUGE!"
Then what to do. It wasn't a windy day but hard holding onto, of course no lift but bulky.
We lived in the country but off of a major highway so I decided if I could get it down our long driveway across the road was my best friend and he'd be amazed. Somehow I made it...cars blowing horns, people yelling!
Luckily my friend was home and amazed...until it snagged on a telephone pole ripping it apart, but well worth it.Always curious if you had a big pasture and enough helium to lift your weight less 10 pounds strapped to a body harness what it would be like. Not enough lift but close enough you'd feel weightless.
rekees4300
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Mo according to this website in the section called "What is the plan for the mission?" the trip will last around 11 minutes. It should also be noted in that section there is a capsule/3 parachutes used to return the astronauts. I mistakenly thought they were going to come back in the self-landing booster rocket. That would have been very dangerous IMO.
Blue Origin: launch date, flight time, and how to watch Bezos crewed flight
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IMO
Obviously these billionaire backed endeavors are advancing and promoting human space flight and exploration...but a lot of the effort is purely commercial in nature and designed as for profit companies...but said profit is not directly meant to come from accomplishments...the money is designed to come from "space tourists"...
With just a fraction of the monies spent on developing these space tourist planes/rockets... a lot more advancement in the exploration of the sea bed and the plethora of natural resources that are waiting to be discovered...we know more about Mars than we know about what's below the oceans right here on Earth...
Guys like bezoes and that limey are not really doing anything patriotic or for the betterment of America...they are doing it for the almighty dollar...
And musk is no better...one small gamma ray burst and all those starlink satellites are noting but a debris field of worthless space junk endangering future projects...
Rather than thinking about these milestone first launches of space tourists...think about where it's really headed...it's all about getting to use a resource (space) that belongs to everyone so they can make a profit...
America and Americans gained greatly from the Apollo etc. project...we gained so much in the way of technology it will likely never be repeated in such a short time span...But be aware we will gain little to nothing from these private commercial space companies...
Obviously these billionaire backed endeavors are advancing and promoting human space flight and exploration...but a lot of the effort is purely commercial in nature and designed as for profit companies...but said profit is not directly meant to come from accomplishments...the money is designed to come from "space tourists"...
With just a fraction of the monies spent on developing these space tourist planes/rockets... a lot more advancement in the exploration of the sea bed and the plethora of natural resources that are waiting to be discovered...we know more about Mars than we know about what's below the oceans right here on Earth...
Guys like bezoes and that limey are not really doing anything patriotic or for the betterment of America...they are doing it for the almighty dollar...
And musk is no better...one small gamma ray burst and all those starlink satellites are noting but a debris field of worthless space junk endangering future projects...
Rather than thinking about these milestone first launches of space tourists...think about where it's really headed...it's all about getting to use a resource (space) that belongs to everyone so they can make a profit...
America and Americans gained greatly from the Apollo etc. project...we gained so much in the way of technology it will likely never be repeated in such a short time span...But be aware we will gain little to nothing from these private commercial space companies...
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Mo according to this website in the section called "What is the plan for the mission?" the trip will last around 11 minutes. It should also be noted in that section there is a capsule/3 parachutes used to return the astronauts. I mistakenly thought they were going to come back in the self-landing booster rocket. That would have been very dangerous IMO.
Blue Origin: launch date, flight time, and how to watch Bezos crewed flight
Thanks!
Quite a lot of money for an 11 minute ride.
I couldn’t even take cell phone pictures in 11 minutes!
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Not an issue. You don't have the funds anyway.
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Space exploration and extraterrestrial technological advancement is one thing. Billionaires wasting boatloads of money to go on a joy ride is another. It is there money and they can do whatever they wish with it. But from my viewpoint, I can think of a lot more beneficial ways in which to spend your excess monies to advance civilization. Anyone that signs up for that flight is at the lower end of my respect ledger (as if they care).
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