Bio-Diesel

   / Bio-Diesel #11  
skargo said:
That is snake oil. The only true way to make real bio is to crack it, not mix it.

IF you have a WVO source, build one of these for $4-500.

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Ok call it an oil blend then. Yea, maybe........the chemical additives to the oil are to increase cetane and pour (gel) point. BUT, there are not any byproducts to dispose of except exhaust smoke.

Have you checked with your state taxing authority to see what you need to do for burning anything besides diesel from the pump? In Md. you need a special fuels permit and you have to post a $2000.00 surety bond with the state.
 
   / Bio-Diesel #12  
tlbuser said:
Ok call it an oil blend then. Yea, maybe........the chemical additives to the oil are to increase cetane and pour (gel) point. BUT, there are not any byproducts to dispose of except exhaust smoke.

Have you checked with your state taxing authority to see what you need to do for burning anything besides diesel from the pump? In Md. you need a special fuels permit and you have to post a $2000.00 surety bond with the state.
I think the bond might even be more now, here in MD. A friend just shut down a fairly large operation as the state wanted him to double his $500K bond. He made and sold a good amount, but not enough for that nonsense.
 
   / Bio-Diesel #13  
$2000.00 for "personal use", not retail or wholesale.

""If you are purchasing bio diesel from a licensed seller you will be charged the motor fuel tax at the rate of $.2425 per gallon and will have no licensing or permitting responsibilities with this Division.

"If your intention was to manufacture your own bio diesel for use in a road vehicle, direct monthly tax payments would required. This would entail an application for a Special Fuel User License, the posting of an annual surety bond and timely monthly reports.

Please phone us MD toll free at 888-784-0142 for clarification and more detailed questions. Thanks and have a great afternoon.

Kathi Beverly
Motor Fuel Tax Licensing ""
 
   / Bio-Diesel #14  
You are right IXLR8 the TDI is more stringent than my JD. I guess this whole Bio-diesel thing has me confused. My good friend was over last night and he operates a large dairy farm and he is feeling the pinch of fuel costs. My suggestion was to start cookin mash and make bio-diesel. He was unsure but willing to learn as I am. Mother Earth News is full of ads for cookers and articles to make but no cleanup talk (so much for tree huggers) so what to do???

I guess keep learning until a comfort level is reached. I do like the mix your own system no mess after you are done.
 
   / Bio-Diesel #15  
Wally,

Check out the Central Carolina Community College. They have or used to have quite a few classes on BioDiesel.

There is a BD manufactuer in Pittsboro.

He got in big trouble with Pittsboro for flushing his wash water down the sewer. He caused some problems at the sewage treatment plant but he said that it was "Cool" for him to flush this stuff. There was talk of a big fine for him but I'm not sure what happened.

If the NC Revueners find you running untaxed fuel they will fine you. There was a guy who was caught running home made BD and he was fined. The legislature was supposed to fix the law but I don't know if they did so in the last session.

Later,
Dan
 
   / Bio-Diesel #16  
It's about time my state (Washington) did something right, but they just passed a law that if you run homemade bio-diesel then you are exempt from the road taxes.

More states should pass such a law.

I just about have my bio-diesel processor finished and have collected 70 gallons of WVO. I have 4 restaurants that I collect from. They produce about 200 gallons a month total.
 
   / Bio-Diesel #17  
dmccarty said:
Wally,
If the NC Revueners find you running untaxed fuel they will fine you. There was a guy who was caught running home made BD and he was fined. The legislature was supposed to fix the law but I don't know if they did so in the last session.
http://www.jenningsequipment.com/storepics/ksBX22.jpg

So much for energy independence.

They're more interested in keeping the tax cash cow healthy and big oil in busniess.
 
   / Bio-Diesel #18  
LBrown59 said:
They're more interested in keeping the tax cash cow healthy and big oil in busniess.
As if big oil needs the legislature in a state to stay in business. :rolleyes: Plus I thought this time around the evil boogieman was the speculators? It's getting difficult to keep track of who it is we're supposed to blame since people refuse to believe the economic reason of supply and demand. Sometime it's Big Pharma, Big Retail, Big Oil. While the passengers change, they are always in a black helicopter.
 
   / Bio-Diesel #19  
Whitey said:
You are right IXLR8 the TDI is more stringent than my JD. I guess this whole Bio-diesel thing has me confused. My good friend was over last night and he operates a large dairy farm and he is feeling the pinch of fuel costs. My suggestion was to start cookin mash and make bio-diesel. He was unsure but willing to learn as I am. Mother Earth News is full of ads for cookers and articles to make but no cleanup talk (so much for tree huggers) so what to do???

I guess keep learning until a comfort level is reached. I do like the mix your own system no mess after you are done.

This is John Deere's official position on use of bio-diesel...;)

John Deere Power Systems has a strong commitment to the environment, energy security, and technological advances that have a positive impact on both.

Biodiesel certainly meets these criteria. While B5 blends are preferred, biodiesel concentrations up to 20 percent (B20) blended in petroleum diesel fuel can be used in all John Deere engines certified up to Tier 3/Stage III A, as well as all non-emissions-certified engines, providing the biodiesel used in the fuel blend meets the standards set by the American Society of Testing Materials (ASTM) D6751.

We recognize the importance of biofuels to our customers and to the environment. Use of quality biodiesel in John Deere diesel engines has economic and environmental benefits, boosts development in rural areas, and helps provide energy security.

John Deere was one of the first off-highway engine manufacturers to factory-fill biodiesel in North America, and we approved B5 biodiesel in 2001. Since then, John Deere has continued to conduct biodiesel research and has performed lab and field tests using biodiesel fuel. We have also developed a fuel conditioner that is recommended when using lower biodiesel blends and required when using B20 blends and above.

What does biodiesel mean for John Deere engines?
 

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