Bliz self-venting diesel cans are illegal

[Nasty135]

Its a reward for your inconveinence, and payment for the others self centered behavior I'm down with that...

(thread Hi-jack) Speaking of the side of the road shopping.... MY Wife (God love her) Saw somebody lost one of their trash bags on the side of the road (figuring OK , I'm going by the dump) stops to pick it up and finds out its full of mens clothes , pretty nice stuff , It all fits!!! (hi-jack over)

 

[DaryleD]

I am surprized at some of your excuses guys. It doesn't make any difference how much something is worth, what might happen to it if you don't take ownership of it etc. It still is not yours! I do like the idea for a note at the filling station and leaving it there though. That seems to be a good solution to the safety issue. The clothes issue is just as wrong as the gas can. I have my own faults, ( many more than I should have ) that because I do them, doesn't mean that it is the right thing to do. I think that if we can remind each other of was is good or bad, ( hopefully in a nice way ) instead of just going with the flow, than maybe our younger generation could have more respect for people, there stuff etc., as well ourselves. We wonder why the world is getting worse... It's because in part, of issues like this, however small, lead to acceptance of bigger things that shouldn't be done.
Daryle.

 

[DieselPower]

I agre to a point Daryle but what would you have us do with stuff that the owner is never going to be found? Its not like the stuff has someones name and phone number plastered on it. I have found all kinds of goodies along the road side over the years. Have I ever returned any of it to it's owner, no, I had no idea who they were. I did find a wallet full of money once on top of a soda machine, it had the owners name in it and I called them and returned it, money included. It's kind of hard to return something if I have no idea who the owner is.

 

[Soundguy]

Daryl.. your reasoning is flawed. As DP points out. What do yuo do when you find a quarter on an empty side walk?? Do you go door to door around the city till someone says it is there's?

I've found dozens of tools.. screwdrivers, makkers, pliers.. etc on road sides over the years.. it was obvious many of them had been there for a while. At a certain point.. lost personal property becomes abandoned property. heck.. even stuff turned into the police gets auctioned at the end of the month.. including vehicles..

Soundguy

I am surprized at some of your excuses guys. It doesn't make any difference how much something is worth, what might happen to it if you don't take ownership of it etc. It still is not yours! I do like the idea for a note at the filling station and leaving it there though. That seems to be a good solution to the safety issue. The clothes issue is just as wrong as the gas can. I have my own faults, ( many more than I should have ) that because I do them, doesn't mean that it is the right thing to do. I think that if we can remind each other of was is good or bad, ( hopefully in a nice way ) instead of just going with the flow, than maybe our younger generation could have more respect for people, there stuff etc., as well ourselves. We wonder why the world is getting worse... It's because in part, of issues like this, however small, lead to acceptance of bigger things that shouldn't be done.
Daryle.

 

[DaryleD]

Sounguy,
I can't see how my reasoning as being "flawed". I think that you might want to think about it again. It wasn't paid for by you, given freely to you, so it is not yours right? I Know that some people would disagree as you guys are, but it still doesn't make it right or your property. I will tell you exactly what I've done in the past, when I've seen a coin or dollar or whatever denomination... I leave whatever it is there. I've overlooked money, tools etc. If I see something by a store, I've left it with them, incase someone comes looking for it. This is what I was talking about. We seem to accept things based on how used to something we are, as being acceptable,or how we feal it should be, instead of looking at the facts. I am thinking that you would do the right thing like diesel did with the wallet, but if something doesn't have someones name or adress written onto it, does that make it any less their property? You go right back to what you've done before, instead of accepting that you made it yours, and no one gave it to you. I think that if anything is flawed, it is the acceptance of this sort of thing. I guess we'll never agree guys, but you at least have to agree that it wasn't yours until you TOOK it.
Daryle.

 

[Farmwithjunk]

Somewhere along the line, ideals, morals, and ethics cross paths with reality and common sense. A case can be made that the original owner of the gas can would return, but in all likelyhood, since he obviously forgot it already, he wouldn't think about it until it was already gone. Maybe another motorist, or the street dept, or who ever, it won't sit there long. It shouldn't. A can of gas sitting along a road could be a dangerous item.

Someone is going to pick it up. Why not me?

I've lost a few things along the road of life, why not find a thing or two. What comes around goes around.

Now if you saw the owner leave it there, and you had some opportunity to return it to that person, I'd say do that. But to drive on past with the unrealistic thought that it will sit there until that person realizes what he left, where he left it, and then had the chance to return to get it, Not happenin'.

If it was a 24 carrot gold, diamond encrusted, rare Egyptian antique gas can, maybe go to the trouble of attempting to find the owner via an add, ect. But let's face it, it's ONLY a gas can. A PLASTIC gas can. Not worth the effort. PROBABLY not worth the gas it would take for the owner to return after it.

Pick it up, use the gas, thank your lucky stars, and don't worry about eternal damnation over it.

 

[irwin]

Sounguy,
I can't see how my reasoning as being "flawed". I think that you might want to think about it again. It wasn't paid for by you, given freely to you, so it is not yours right? I Know that some people would disagree as you guys are, but it still doesn't make it right or your property. I will tell you exactly what I've done in the past, when I've seen a coin or dollar or whatever denomination... I leave whatever it is there. I've overlooked money, tools etc. If I see something by a store, I've left it with them, incase someone comes looking for it. This is what I was talking about. We seem to accept things based on how used to something we are, as being acceptable,or how we feal it should be, instead of looking at the facts. I am thinking that you would do the right thing like diesel did with the wallet, but if something doesn't have someones name or adress written onto it, does that make it any less their property? You go right back to what you've done before, instead of accepting that you made it yours, and no one gave it to you. I think that if anything is flawed, it is the acceptance of this sort of thing. I guess we'll never agree guys, but you at least have to agree that it wasn't yours until you TOOK it.
Daryle.

There's an ancient manuscript.( we all know this book) A holy man was with his followers and they didn't have any money to pay the toll to get into a city. The holy man told his follower to catch a fish,so a fish was caught, in the fish's mouth was a coin, they used the coin to pay the toll... it wasn't their money but they used it... if this great man can claim a lost item, don't know why you couldn't.

 

[DaryleD]

Farmwithjunk, Let me get this straight; you don't think that ethics,morals, and values are in line with common sense? It sounds like you're saying that it is reasonable to take something that isn't yours, make no effort to give it back, unless it's of a certain value? I believe, like you do, on one thing though; that what comes around does go around in life. As far as eternal damnation; I have a person who took my shortcommings, on His shoulders to account for my indiscretions; so no, I am not worried about that. I am worried about acceptance of something, and not admitting it is wrong. Like I said before, I have way too many things that I do that aren't right, but I'll never tell you that they are; in fact, I am quite ashamed of them. Facts are facts, and fealings are fealings, and the facts are; it is stealing, no matter how you feal about it, or justify it.


Irwin, I know the book... manuscript, and the holy man that you're talking about. The only thing is, it was not a lost coin; it was "The Mans' " money. He created it, and had them go through that process for a reason. That man, owns everything, and gave freely, the money, as well as eternal salvation.... I'm glad to see you have read some of it. Please read the part that says it's ok to take found property and let me know where in the book to find it. That is what I try to go by in life, althoiugh, I always come up wayyyyy short of the mark!!!
Daryle.

 

[CDsdad]

DaryleD,
The same Savior died for my sins. He also doesn't make us accept Him, we are given free will. I understand where you are coming from. There is no place where it says it is OK to steal. I'm also not going to tell you to lighten up. I'm also not going to tell you that you are being a little self righteous, even though you admit your own faults. I will tell you every man has to account for his own soul. You said your piece, they said theirs. It will be OK, I promise.

That's quite a trip from roadside can to Bible school isn't it.

 

[Farmwithjunk]

Farmwithjunk, Let me get this straight; you don't think that ethics,morals, and values are in line with common sense? It sounds like you're saying that it is reasonable to take something that isn't yours, make no effort to give it back, unless it's of a certain value? I believe, like you do, on one thing though; that what comes around does go around in life. As far as eternal damnation; I have a person who took my shortcommings, on His shoulders to account for my indiscretions; so no, I am not worried about that. I am worried about acceptance of something, and not admitting it is wrong. Like I said before, I have way too many things that I do that aren't right, but I'll never tell you that they are; in fact, I am quite ashamed of them. Facts are facts, and fealings are fealings, and the facts are; it is stealing, no matter how you feal about it, or justify it.
Daryle.

Well, you DON'T have it straight. You have a rather "liberal" interpretation of what was typed for you to read, and I'm getting the impression you're just trying to be difficult. Not happenin'. I'm not falling for it. Read it as it was actually typed, quit trying to read a deeper meaning into things and take it as literal as it was printed. Quit "paraphrasing" my words (and those of others) to make them fit into the context of YOUR thoughts.

I DIDN'T say morals ethics and values have nothing to do with common sense. Go back and read again.

I DIDN'T say there was a dollar value for what is permisable to "steal" and what ISN'T. Go back and read again.

Try to understand what IS there to read and NOT what you WANT to see there to read.

I believe in a GOD that is just and understanding. No way HE's going to penalize me for doing what makes good common sense and isn't a malicious wrongdoing.

Your beliefs may be different. I can't account for that. It's not my place to account for your actions. It's not your place to judge me for mine.