Block heater for a TN65D

[KenPauling]

I just bought a block heater for my TN65D and I need to know how and where to install it. The directions are less than ideal. I know I read something on Tractorbynet about this but when I try the search, it says "we cannot proceed" Can anyone tell me how and where to install this heater? Is it on the exhaust side of the tractor, just forward from the oil filter? /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif

 

[MNkurt]

I can't help you, but want to get in on this thread.

I'm going to pick up a block heater for my TN 75 tomorrow morning. It had to come in on stock order, so hopefully somebody in service can help.

I was thinking that it should be installed on the right side(as you're sitting on the tractor). It looks like there's a couple of frost plugs there, along with a bigger plug that needs a really really big Allen wrench.

I haven't even looked on the left of the tractor. NH didn't leave an abundance of room to get this done no matter where it goes.

If I get some knowledge tomorrow, I'll be sure to pass it on to you.

Good Luck

Kurt

 

[KenPauling]

Hi Kurt ! Thanks for the reply. The directions say to put the block heater on the right side of the engine. I'm confused because the New Holland mechanic said he thought the block heater would go into the large plug with a small bolt (looks like about 5/16 or so) in the middle holding it on the side of the engine- which is on the LEFT side of the tractor when you are sitting in the cab.(this is the right side of the engine when you are standing in front of the tractor looking at the engine) This opening is behind the exhaust stack on the tractor and just forward of the oil filter. I wanted to put it in this weekend but I'm afraid of trying to open up the wrong plug and breaking something. I want to be sure I've got the right place located. The picture in the directions is useless! The mechanic never installed one and his guess for the location is different than your guess. I'm sure that it must go in a specific place or big problems will result. The heater element for the TN65D and probably your TN75 is 1000 watts! Ken

 

[MNkurt]

Ken:

Well, I'm still hoping someone smarter than you, me, and the mechanic who's never installed one jumps in here.

You have me curious about the left side of the engine(as you sit on the seat). I know exactly what you mean about attempting to get something like this done, then becoming apprehensive about it for fear of screwing something up.

I'm afraid my tractor is going to be a bit of an oddity for my local service people too. They told me they've only sold one model like mine. I bought mine in Texas and had it shipped up to MN. I'm afraid block heaters aren't really an option in this neck of the woods.

I think I'll run out and take a look at the left side of my engine right now. At least I'll know that much when I grill the service folks in the morning.

We've had a nice fall here, but I'm sure you and I will need to get this figured out pretty soon. As soon as I learn anything more, you'll be the first to know.

Kurt

 

[MNkurt]

Hi Ken:

Went and peeked at the left side and what I found doesn't seem to jive with what the mechanic told you.

I had no problem locating the large plug with the small bolt you mentioned. On my tractor, it looks like that's where the turbo charger gets its oil. Since your 65 doesn't have a turbo, you probably have just a plug.

Regardless, that wouldn't be where you want to install your block heater. I hope you didn't plan on tearing into it tonight if you couldn't sleep. /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

I'll make a concerned effort at getting a substantial answer tomorrow(monday) morning and let you know ASAP. I've done this procedure on other vehicles. It just shouldn't be that bad. /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif

Chat with you soon,

Kurt

 

[Robert_in_NY]

It does go on the right side of the engine while sitting in the seat. There is like was said a plug with a hole for either an allen or square drive (I can't remember). I thought about doing my own but my tractor needed to be serviced and I convinced my dealer to do it for me as part of the service. To change it you will need to drain the antifreeze down quite a ways before you pull the plug out of the side.

 

[MNkurt]

Thanks for chiming in Robert. Picked up my BH this morning and the Service Manager rattled off what you said without blinking an eye.

Gotta be on the right side of the tractor and remove the plug with the hex-shaped female fitting(after you drain the coolant). Either a really big allen wrench or some kind of shaft. I think I measured about 1-1/8" or so. I imagine a metric number of some sort will be closer.

This looks like a nice deal with a threaded plug and everything. I haven't done it yet, but am feeling pretty good about it now. I think the biggest pain will be having to work around the FEL bracket. Oh well, once it's done I'll be happy when the tractor fires right up in January.

Ken, is your BH for a Fiat 8060 Series? I'm thinking this'll be a lot better deal than just knocking out a regular frost plug like many BH installments require. You mentioned a 1000 watts? I'd say 2-3 hours of heating and we'll be ready to go.

Just for curiosity, I paid $50.39 for mine. Guess I won't drive to PA if you got a better deal. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Ken I also see in a previous post of yours that you were getting rear wheel weights? I just got those today too. Four weights @ 110 lb each. Total kit was $431.48. Seems dead weight is a bit pricey. Just the way it is I guess.

Keep us posted on how the install goes. I think this is my 10th post. Just enough to start displaying ignorance! /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif
Oh well, I'm having a great time chatting on TBN.

Good luck!

 

[KenPauling]

Hi Kurt ! Thanks for the info. I paid over $50.00 for the BH also. No deals in PA! The weights I bought are the same as yours. I paid $480.00, I should drive to MN. for my parts. Did your weights come with bolts or pins to put them on the wheels? Mine did not. I asked how much for a kit to put the weights on and I was told I would need six starter bolts at 19.95 each and six extension bolts at $21.00 each !! Yes, you heard that right. I told them they were nuts and I'm buying 3/4 inch all thread and some nuts and washers and hanging the weights for less than $20.00 ! The dealer explained to me they are "special bolts" that screw into each other. I think New Holland is doing most of the screwing to its customers. No wonder I couldn't get a straight answer when I ordered from the dealer about if the bolts were included with the weights. Anybody know a better way to mount the weights? Ken

 

[Robert_in_NY]

While I don't remember how much I paid for the heater you will find it only takes 15-30 minutes of warmup time and you will start like it is 90 outside. I use to leave my TN outside and had the heater hooked to a outlet on a switch. Turn it on, eat breakfast, clear the driveway and then head back inside. They work extremly well.

 

[EdwardSeeley]

I installed a block heater on a TN, it goes on the right hand side of the tractor, you must remove the large hex plug (I had my friend make a socket for my 3/4 inch drive socket set. When installing the heater, you must be careful that the element does not touch the cylinder walls. Its hard to tighten with out the element moving and touching the cylinder wall. When installed properly your tractor will start just like in summer.