Blown Hydraulic pump

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Woodsman1234

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Location
Georgetown IN
Tractor
KAMA 354X 3 cylinder
I have a KAMA TS354X with a FEL. When my son was doing some bush hogging the quick disconnect at the rear of the tractor popped off and hydraulic fluid went flying. We reattached the QD and then tried filling the reservoir. Noticed that half of the bolts that connect the lines to the pump were missing and fluid was pouring out of the bolt holes. I assume the pump is shot. Can anyone tell me where I can get a new pump and how hard is it to replace?

Thank You.
 
   / Blown Hydraulic pump #2  
Did the very same thing with my Kubota. Call where you bought it and see if they can order a new pump. Call a warehouse who handles this line or take the pump off and go to a hyd.shop and see if they can match something up. kubota warehouse is nearby in Columbus Ohio, so I had mine overnight.
 
   / Blown Hydraulic pump #3  
I have hundreds of different hydraulic pumps in stock, I need to know what engine you have and if you can send me a pic of your pump.If we don't have it I have other sources to get it from

New Hydraulic pumps are under $ 200.00 in cost(How much was the Kubota pump? )

E-mail me pics to tommy@affordabletractorsalesco.com



Tommy
Affordable Tractor Sales
"Your Jinma Parts Superstore"
Home of compact Jinma, Foton, and Koyker Tractors and Parts, Wood Chippers, Backhoes - Affordable Tractor Sales Company
 
   / Blown Hydraulic pump #4  
HI, if you can send me a picture of the pump and engine size I can try to match it up, we are a Jinma dealer and have several pumps in stock. Also I would recommend getting rid of the quick connects, they tend to cause a lot of problems and can take out a HYD pump if they decided to quit working, they can switched to a by pass kit.

Nan
Parts Dept.
Keno Tractors
 
   / Blown Hydraulic pump #5  
Did you try bolting the hose back to the pump. Pressure hose might just have came lose.

Did the pump crack the case?

Install a gage and check the pressure.
 
   / Blown Hydraulic pump
  • Thread Starter
#7  
Sorry about not getting back to you. Been sick & unable to take the pump off.
Another question: After I noticed the hydraulic fluid pouring out of the bolt holes I turned off the master hydraulic lever and told my son to drive the tractor back to the house. Took him a long time. When I asked him what the delay was he said he could only get the transmission into second gear. I happened to notice that the master hydraulic lever was in the on position. Does the pump run off a shaft and could the shaft be messed up too? Any way to get it out easily?

Thanks again
 
   / Blown Hydraulic pump #8  
If that pump is one that is mounted just above the PTO shaft at the rear of the tractor, it is driven by a shaft with a rectangular tang, I think. That tang engages a slot in the end of the pump shaft. Your description of what happened with the pump and the QD's suggests to me that when the QD became disconnected, it deadheaded the pump and split the pump internally, causing it to leak oil from every orifice. The pump deadheading would put a heavy load on the engine and force the operator to run in a lower gear to keep the RPM up, which just makes the pump split sooner. This stall situation created by the back pressure of the deadheaded pump can also round off the drive tang.

The pump should remove easily with the four or six bolts that hold it to the tractor. Once those are removed the pump should just pull off and you can visually check the drive tang and slot.

One thing to note when/if you replace that pump - the rear pump rotates the opposite of the engine-mounted pump for the FEL and steering, from what I recall. You shoiuld verify this with the dealer you buy the new pump from so you set it up right. It isn't difficult to change the direction of rotation, you just sort of swap ends on the pump assembly.
 
   / Blown Hydraulic pump #9  
Just a note of caution - learned the hard way. Install an external relief valve for your hydraulic system as the one on your chinese tractor likely won't stop further problems. Also install a pressure gauge in the hydraulic system as well.
I didn't initially have either and managed to blow two pumps - original and replacement.
In my case, the problem seems to be an intermittent pressure spike in the TPH - everything else checked out fine. I can see what is happening on the pressure gauge during use and the pressure spikes are taken care of by the new external relief valve. I intend to fix the problem once it is identified, but for now I can use my tractor.
Thanks
Jim
 
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#10  
I finally took the pump off the tractor and it is split down the middle of the output side.
 

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