Border Collie?

   / Border Collie? #11  
One thing to consider too is the property foliage. Down here all my pets are short haired. Makes it easier to remove burrs and thorns. :cool:

I've had an Aussie for the last 11 years. The old girl still patrols the property. She's always trying to heard the chickens back into the pin or garden. I guess she figures they're supposed to be couped up. ;) Most gentle dog I've ever raised and good with young visitors. Ain't scared of nothing though. Her and a little Rat Terrier chased two coyotes off the property. And after being hit five times by rattlesnakes, she'll still try to get between me and a snake. I just can't seem to break her of snake hunting.

By the way, we got a biggen about. (Rattlesnake that is.) Fangs are at least 2" apart. Maybe a little more. That would make the head about the size of my fist. That's a BIG rattler!
 
   / Border Collie? #12  
We had a border collie for a short time. A quite elderly widower gentleman, who lived on a state highway, had pups he wanted to give away. They were barely old enough to wean, but he said the mother dog had gotten out and onto the highway where she was run over and killed. So we got a border collie pup on 10/6/99 and she was a dandy. Of course we lived on 10 acres and on a county road where the pavement ended just past our driveway. We never had more than 5 or 6 vehicles a day on our road, including our paper carrier and postman, and it was all 30 mph or less, so we let "Lady" come and go, in and out of the house, as she wished. On 2/1/00, we were just sitting down to dinner when an unidentified pickup went by at an unbelievably high rate of speed. My wife went to the front door and saw Lady lying in the road. She was dead, but without a mark on her. To say it was a very sad day would be an understatement.

They're great dogs, but very active, need lots of exercise, and definitely want to chase things, including vehicles.
 
   / Border Collie? #13  
Yes, as many have posted, the downfall of BC's is tryin to herd those durn cars. They truly dont understand or have the ability to overcome that herding instinct. The other thing to watch out for as some have mentioned is herding small kids. They do tend to nip as part of the instinct. Not a true bite but a nip to get attention. It's a catch 22 with kids for the more excited and objectionable the kid becomes, the more the dog escalates in trying to do it's thing. Training and YOUR presence does work but YOU have to spend the time in the training.

A job to do is the most important thing for the dog. We are fortunate that we raise goats and therefore have a job to do each day in keeping the goats away from the sheds while we are cleaning and getting ready for putting feed out. We have had "Rowdy" for a year and FINALLY he is getting it down. Yes, there is a lot of training and personal attention to do this. Herding should not begin until they are at least 2; but exposure to it should begin at a very young age.

We have livestock guard dogs also so being "part of the pack" is necessary for the LGD's to allow him to interact with the goats. This is even more time spent training. BC's are very possesive of YOU. Most will try to keep the other dogs away from you and this can cause true conflict as they try to herd the other dogs.........more time training.

As an inside dog I couldnt ask better. Totally different from that active playful critter outside. SMARTEST DOG I EVER HAD............Exposure to commands with firm and consistent followup bring about a dog that will never be an obedience command dog following through without question; but one that so wants to please and do what you want that he can't help but with love for you do what you firmly, consistently, and with love ask him to do................

DO NOT GET A BC if you are just gonna put them out in the yard. YOU MUST spend time to train them each time you come out the door.................God Bless.......Dennis
 
   / Border Collie? #14  
I've had Scotties (smart, but ONE person dogs), Labs (friendly, playful but a lot of duh:>) hounds of several varieties, spaniels of two varieties, and several Heinz 57s. We currently have a 2-1/2 yo purebred BC. Folks down the road breed and train them for herding. Molly was a large female left at 4 months after all 5 males in the litter sold. Breeder had grown attached at that point and offered her to us for free to keep her close....we had lost our last two dogs 6 months earlier (to age and illness). I am 59 and have had dogs probably 50 of those 59 years. Never have I seen anything close to as intelligent. Like many BCs, she has OCD, except for them OC is an order rather than a disorder....it's how they organize their lives.

Molly lives in the house, and plays outside daily. She plays by herself some of the time, and (weather permitting) one of us will throw the ball for her till we're tired (usually 15-20 minutes).....she has never grown tired of chasing it. Also....the neighbor has a Jack Russell about 6 months older and they play daily as weather allows. He is retired, so we just call each other, and usually my wife will take Molly out. She and the neighbor sit on the porch, or under the shade tree in good weather, and the dogs romp, rest, romp, rest some more. We try to get them together for 30 minutes minimum, more in good weather. They are entertaining, so it is good time.

Molly herds us. My wife is her assumed primary responsibility...she follows her from room to room, and lays across the doorway when she is in a room for any extended period. She has never ever nipped at a human to our knowledge; she does her herding of us and others by simply running around us to block off areas. If we go there anyway, she adjusts rather than getting more assertive with us. Molly will bark at the SLIGHTEST abnormal sound, but it is a warning bark and she retreats at the same time. She has "warned" us at night of deer, coyotes, other dogs, cats, etc. from her post on our back porch, but has NEVER offered to give chase or engage (and we've seen the critters as close as 50-60'...she just retreats to the porch, her back to the door). She does not go near the road (when we put mail out, she stops 30' or so short of the road and lays down), but she is vehicle-stupid. She is an absolute attention ****, and she has learned that vehicles contain those creatures she loves to get attention from. As a result she is inclined to approach moving vehicles in the driveway. We have worked on this, and she now seems pretty good about staying on the porch until the attention-giving creature actually emerges from the vehicle...then she ingratiates herself by wiggling and sitting in front of them.

You definitely have to learn to live with a BC, as they are unique. They do need attention, and they need physical exertion of some sort pretty much daily. I mentioned Molly is big....her sire is the largest BC we or our vet has ever seen...at his working weight (he herds sheep daily) he is in the mid 50# range. Molly does not work to the same level, though she is active, and she is 54#. She believes she is a lap dog, and will take her post there if you let her. She has learned most things, even difficult lessons, in 1 to 2 repetitions. She may need reinforcement if she doesn't LIKE the lesson/command, but she darn well knows it. Her learning ability has left me in awe. I would have another in a heartbeat SO LONG AS I had the space and ability to let them exercise. She roams the house free at night, has not had an accident since she was a pup, and has gotten us up to go out at night perhaps a dozen times in a year (she typically doesn't get outside from around 10PM to 8AM). Pics are Sept/Oct 06 when we got her, app. 24# then.

Molly 1 Molly 2 Molly 3 Molly 4
 
   / Border Collie? #15  
When we lived in the west end of Navarro County, there was an independent mechanic who had his own shop out in the country. Word of mouth advertising only, and out of sight of any road with much traffic, but he stayed busy. He had a border collie that hung around the shop, and anytime I (or anyone else, I guess) showed up there, that dog would bring me something, usually an old spark plug wire, for me to throw and the dog would keep retrieving it and bringing it back just as long I'd throw it.:D
 
   / Border Collie? #16  
We were looking for a Border Collie after are last Siberian Husky passed... For those that don't know, Siberian Huskys customarily don't bark... at least not unless in combat.

Family friends with a cattle ranch raised Australian Shepherds for their own use and offered one to us. They have much in common with Border Collies, just a little less busy.

All have been wonderful family dogs... watching over my newborn nieces and nephews and extremely tolerant of the kids... NEVER snapping or nipping even when inadvertently provoked by the toddlers.
 

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