Bought 43 acre farm - Need Tractor

   / Bought 43 acre farm - Need Tractor
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Thanks a lot guys, I just started reading more about the LS. I do have an LS dealer about 30 min from me, they sell MF and LS. They seem to check a lot of my boxes, 4k-ish lbs, strong loader, HST, good reputation.
Thanks Searcy, I hope to find that peace soon and that's the main reason we bought it! It's so scenic we may allow people to take wedding photos there for a fee. Believe it or not the pictures don't even do it justice.

I think I've got it narrowed a bit to used Kubota MX, Kubota Grand L 40s and maybe the newer 60s, new (er) LS, used NH boomers, used Kioti DKs and maybe NX depending on prices.
 
   / Bought 43 acre farm - Need Tractor
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GS Vette that sounds like a set up I would love - minus the blade as I don't need it. Would you mind sharing what your price was?
 
   / Bought 43 acre farm - Need Tractor #23  
I am almost in the same boat as you. Land size is 42 acres but all timber. I have settled on a tractor in the 40-45 hp range but do not plan to buy until Dec or Jan. During my research have found Kioti to have the best prices, Kubota seems to have the most dealers, and new Mahindras only work if you are shorter than 5 foot 6.

Make sure you apply for the TN "Greenbelt" program and then apply for the Agriculture exception. Once in place it will lower your property taxes and then you will not have to pay sales tax on most equipment you buy to maintain and improve your land.

It took us approximately 6 weeks to get both approved. The sales tax savings is huge on a tractor and implements in the $32-35K range I am considering.

Why black walnuts? I researched this and was told they grow so slow even my son might not benefit before he dies.
 
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Lol on Mahindras, I heard someone else say that. I'm most worried about all the reports of electrical problems with the newer mahindras.
So do you have to apply for Greenbelt first and wait for that to be approved and then apply for ag exemption? I'm looking forward to being able to deduct some of these expenses from my income too, will really help.
I decided on Black Walnuts because it seems like they're the most rock solid in terms of future value even if it's for my grandchildren. My daughter just turned 6. Do you have other ideas on profitable trees that will give us a return faster? Good to meet you Randy and thanks for your insights.
 
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Why black walnuts? I researched this and was told they grow so slow even my son might not benefit before he dies.
They have bred faster growing black walnuts.
fast growing black walnuts - Google Search

Depending on how big you plant them:
4. At what age will the trees reach maturity?
Under ideal conditions, genetically superior black walnut and black cherry trees can be harvested as early as 25 to 30 years, depending on the soil, weed and pest control, weather and other variables. Seedlings take about five to ten years longer. The age of the tree at harvest is actually determined by the size of the log you wish to sell.

You probably won't get 30" veneer logs in 30 years, but it shouldn't take 100.
 
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John, This is some info to get you started:

Looking to save on your property taxes? If you own 15 acres or more, you just might be able to reduce your Tennessee property tax liability by applying for the Greenbelt Law. The Greenbelt Law, or the Agricultural, Forest, and Open Space Land Act of 1976, was designed to preserve farms, forests, and open space and to reduce urbanization across Tennessee. Greenbelt helps provide much-needed tax relief to landowners and farmers who qualify and it also helps maintain the natural beauty of our state.

WHAT TYPES OF LAND QUALITY FOR THE GREENBELT?
There are three types of land which may qualify: farm, forest, and open lands. (Source: Tennessee Comptroller of the Treasury).

AGRICULTURAL LAND
Agricultural land is land which “constitutes a farm unit engaged in the production or growing of crops, plants, animals, nursery, or floral products.” The property may include some areas which don't produce farm products (such as woodland and wasteland). It may also include a homesite for the owner or farm operator, which will be assessed at market value. The land “must have been farmed by the owner or the owner’s parent or spouse for at least 25 years.” Noncontiguous tracts may also qualify.

FOREST LAND
If you own 15 or more acres that are used in the growing of trees "under a sound program of sustained yield management," then you may qualify.The land does not have to yield an income, however, in this case, an assessor takes into consideration the number of acres, the amount of timber, and the actual and potential growth rate of the timber. They will also consider the management practices that are applied to the land. It’s worth noting that a forest management plan is required to maintain a forest classification.

OPEN SPACE
Many individual home and property owners with land in or near urban areas can qualify for the Greenbelt under the Open Space definition. In this instance, if a property owner has three or more acres that are maintained in an open or natural condition, they may be eligible. The notion behind the Open Space clause is that this kind of preservation “benefits the public by conserving natural resources by providing a natural setting for people who might not otherwise have access to such a place and providing ‘relief from the monotony of urban sprawl.’" It also aids in the conservation of natural resources, water, air, and wildlife.

However, if you plan on developing a golf course on your property, you’re out of luck! Land must be kept in a natural state and as with the forest land clause, you’ll need an approved preservation plan.

HOW DO YOU APPLY FOR THE GREENBELT?
To apply, property owners must complete one of three assessment applications (agricultural, forest, or open space), provide necessary documentation, and have the application notarized. Applications must be received by March 1. There is no fee to apply, however, you must record the application with the county’s register’s office if you’re approved. So now is the perfect time to start the process!

Depending on the county in which you live, reassessments occur on a 4- to 6-year cycle.

WHAT IF MY PROPERTY STRADDLES COUNTY LINES?
This is more common than you might think! If your property crosses county lines (let’s say you have 10 acres in Davidson County and 15 Acres in Williamson county), you are still eligible for the Greenbelt.

This is my own personal journey:

First we visited the assessor's office in Crossville (Cumberland county) and they gave us some phone numbers of people who could complete the forest plan. We called one who worked with the Dept of Agriculture, Forestry division and met with him. Then he scheduled a time to come out and do a walk through of the timber and offered some great information. He wrote up the plan and emailed it to us within a couple of days. We went back to the assessors office with a copy of the plan and they completed a form and I signed it and they had it notarized. Walked across the street to the court house and filed the form for a $12.50 fee.

Entire process was pretty easy but it is a process and took some time. Everyone we dealt with was super nice and easy to work with. The gent from the Forestry Division was the best!
We were told it goes into effect for tax year 2019 and that most people see almost a 50% reduction in property tax but time will tell.

Next we mailed another form and a copy of the green belt form to the TN Dept of Revenue requesting a “Farm Card”. This will allow us to be sales tax exempt when we purchase equipment we use for managing the forest. It took 2 weeks to get the "card" in our hand. It expires Dec 2019. I am guessing it is easy to renew but will find out Dec 2019.

NOTE: Some people who do the forest plans charge. One guy we called said his fee was $200. We didn't know the Forestry Division did them for free until after we contacted them.

Hope this helps, and good luck finding the tractor of your choosing.
Randy
 
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GS Vette that sounds like a set up I would love - minus the blade as I don't need it. Would you mind sharing what your price was?

34700 out the door with third function installed, top&tilt installed, 2 sets of filters and Rimguard in tires. Only option not on the machine was the beacon
 
   / Bought 43 acre farm - Need Tractor
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Thanks, so probably in the $27/28k range without cab I'm guessing.

Newbury, I saw those, just wasn't sure if it was a marketing gimick or real, but that is where I was planning to buy mine from. I've found it hard to find real reviews from people that have planted those and are seeing fast growth. BTW, we do a bunch of work for AGC, saw you used to work there. What was your position? We do work for Hydrologic group (WRDB) and Terrain Analysis branch (UTP). Used to produce iENCs for them as well.
 

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