Thanks to all, your info helps, I will go with the 4' BB. kentrodngun, thanks for the info on East Wind tractor I have been watching this company on E-bay for a while, came close to buying a chinese tractor but found a good deal on a Kioti with low hours and seems to of had a good life. I will give them a call and see what they can do in terms of price. I'am assuming his implements are chinese brand like his tractors? thanks again