Loader Bucket size
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gladehound
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You should check your manual to see if there is a maximum bucket width specified. Some manufacturers do this because a wider bucket will put more stress on loader arms if you "catch" a corner of the bucket on something. If there is a maximum spec, running a wider bucket will typically void your loader warrantee.
That being said, I see no operational issues if you're careful. I'm sure you're aware that a bigger bucket can hold more stuff which means more weight and there may be situations where you can't lift a full bucket of material depending on the materials density.
Why do you want the wider bucket?
That being said, I see no operational issues if you're careful. I'm sure you're aware that a bigger bucket can hold more stuff which means more weight and there may be situations where you can't lift a full bucket of material depending on the materials density.
Why do you want the wider bucket?
Mostly cause it's more available in the QA. The attachment plate for the QA conversion of the standard equipment Kioti 50" bucket is 4-5" taller than the back of the bucket itself obscuring work view from the cockpit. Plus the bucket is a wee bit small. I'd go with a 54", but having trouble finding one.
gladehound
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Since you already have the smaller bucket that you can use when you want to apply more force, a 60" bucket with a little more height and depth would probably be nice for light materials like wood and snow.
Every time I have a new task to do I seem to wind up with another bucket. I have three now. A 16" wide stump bucket which I used to pry up stumps / rocks, the 65" standard bucket (which is tiny for my loader) with tooth bar added for dirt and stone work, and a 72" wide x 42" deep snow bucket that I use for snow, wood and mulch. My particular loader lists 72" as the widest bucket. That plus maneuvering in the woods is why I didn't go wider. My tractor is 69 inches wide so this is the only bucket I have that fully covers my tracks. For snow only, a 96" bucket would have been sweet, but I would have to be more careful not to catch an edge and it wouldn't be practical in the woods. A 96" bucket may have been hard to find space to dump snow between trees since I live in the woods.
Do you know how much your tractor can curl (role back force) at what distance from the pins? This would be good to figure out before going with a deeper bucket.
What is your break out at the pins and how long are your loader arms? From this you can calculate lift at the bucket edge for various depths of buckets.
Figuring out these forces before buying a bigger bucket will help you choose one that is still reasonable for your hydraulics to handle given your intended use (which you haven't mentioned).
Every time I have a new task to do I seem to wind up with another bucket. I have three now. A 16" wide stump bucket which I used to pry up stumps / rocks, the 65" standard bucket (which is tiny for my loader) with tooth bar added for dirt and stone work, and a 72" wide x 42" deep snow bucket that I use for snow, wood and mulch. My particular loader lists 72" as the widest bucket. That plus maneuvering in the woods is why I didn't go wider. My tractor is 69 inches wide so this is the only bucket I have that fully covers my tracks. For snow only, a 96" bucket would have been sweet, but I would have to be more careful not to catch an edge and it wouldn't be practical in the woods. A 96" bucket may have been hard to find space to dump snow between trees since I live in the woods.
Do you know how much your tractor can curl (role back force) at what distance from the pins? This would be good to figure out before going with a deeper bucket.
What is your break out at the pins and how long are your loader arms? From this you can calculate lift at the bucket edge for various depths of buckets.
Figuring out these forces before buying a bigger bucket will help you choose one that is still reasonable for your hydraulics to handle given your intended use (which you haven't mentioned).
I'll check the stats, but one of the reasons I went with the the ck2510 was it seemed to have vastly superior lift and breakout numbers than other branded units of similar and larger size. The height and width dimensions are ok, the 70" is coming from a Kioti ck(?) 30.
Thanks for the insight, very helpful indeed.
Thanks for the insight, very helpful indeed.
VictorW
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I looked at the specs of your tractor and loader. Your fel specs are only about 1% less than my CK30hst. Your total tractor weight is about 800lbs less. The CK30hst bucket is 60" wide versus your 50". I think you'd be fine as long as you didn't fill it full with heavy material because the back of the tractor would become light. My rears aren't loaded and I use a 6ft back blade, about 350lbs., for ballast. The fel will pick up the bucket even heaped with gravel but the back end gets a little light and you have to move slowly. If I have my bh on, more ballast, then no problem.
gladehound
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The 72" max that I mentioned is for a Kioti KL402 loader that is made for the 40hp and 45hp Kioti DS models. It has nothing to do with your tractor, just an example. I don't know if there is any published max for yours.