Built a quick and dirty thumb.

   / Built a quick and dirty thumb. #41  
I'm wondering what actually caused the rod to bend other than simple column overload. Were the pins lubed so they could turn freely? I see that you have good provision for greasing but I sometimes forget to lube prior to prototype testing.
 
   / Built a quick and dirty thumb.
  • Thread Starter
#42  
OK here's V2, dad and I talked and he felt the rod failed because the mount failed and vice versa so I welded it up proper this time. Besides the repad I also changed the open width to 36" instead of 42" and that alone made a world of difference in the smoothness of operation. The gussets are a good idea and I may add that at a later date.

20170225_144202.jpg20170225_144209.jpg

Thanks for all the input guys I hope it works out better this time.
 
   / Built a quick and dirty thumb.
  • Thread Starter
#43  
I'm wondering what actually caused the rod to bend other than simple column overload. Were the pins lubed so they could turn freely? I see that you have good provision for greasing but I sometimes forget to lube prior to prototype testing.
Yes it was greased I'm a nut about greasing stuff it's actually a job I enjoy.
 
   / Built a quick and dirty thumb. #44  
I'm wondering what actually caused the rod to bend other than simple column overload. Were the pins lubed so they could turn freely? I see that you have good provision for greasing but I sometimes forget to lube prior to prototype testing.

The rod bent because more load was placed on it than the hydraulics had the ability to produce. Hafta think about that for a bit. :)
 
   / Built a quick and dirty thumb. #45  
The mount failure happened second.
 
   / Built a quick and dirty thumb. #46  
The rod bent because more load was placed on it than the hydraulics had the ability to produce. Hafta think about that for a bit. :)

So you're saying that the rod would not have bent if there was more psi available?
 
   / Built a quick and dirty thumb. #47  
So you're saying that the rod would not have bent if there was more psi available?

Nope.

I'm saying the host tractor cannot produce enough hydraulic pressure to bend the rod under normal use situations. It bent because forces in excess of the hydraulic capability were applied to the rod.
 
   / Built a quick and dirty thumb. #48  
Getting ready to check out for the evening. Don't want to leave with an open question.

If the tractor had the hydraulic capability to bend the rod, it could be accomplished by activating the valve to close the claw and holding it. The tractor does not have that hydraulic capability. So to bend the rod there had to be forces outside the hydraulic capability of the tractor. Pretty simple if you think about it.

I've bent three cylinder rods. Never once was it because of the hydraulic strength of the tractor...... :(
 
   / Built a quick and dirty thumb. #50  
So you're saying that the rod would not have bent if there was more psi available?
When you have the grapple in fully closed position, how much clearance was there between the bottom of the clevis on the rod end of the cylinder and the bracket on the grapple? Looking at your picture, it appears that there isn't much clearance there and if they touch that could have been what bent your rod.

Aaron Z
 

Tractor & Equipment Auctions

2018 GENIE GTH-636 TELESCOPIC FORKLIFT (A51242)
2018 GENIE GTH-636...
2005 Chevrolet C4500 Altec Bucket Truck (A50323)
2005 Chevrolet...
(30) 9' Pipe Fence Posts (A50515)
(30) 9' Pipe Fence...
91013 (A48082)
91013 (A48082)
2018 CATERPILLAR 259D SKID STEER (A51242)
2018 CATERPILLAR...
2009 Ford F-250 Pickup Truck, VIN # 1FTSX21Y49EA41686 (A48836)
2009 Ford F-250...
 
Top