Burn Piles for Beginners

   / Burn Piles for Beginners #1  

ShenandoahJoe

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I've never needed one before, but with all the downed branches and trees from this winter's snow, I'm looking at a bonfire pretty soon. I'd like some advice. I'm just 100 yards from the volunteer fire department, so I've got backup all arranged.

Things I figured out on my own: :)
  1. far from the house
  2. not on the power-line easement
  3. well away from the propane tanks

Can I put it on land that'll be planted in six weeks or so?
 
   / Burn Piles for Beginners #2  
If the fire is hot enough it will sterilize the dirt and nothing will grow in that spot. I never burn mine unless we have had a very good rain the night before or usually I wait till it is raining to burn.
 
   / Burn Piles for Beginners #3  
I start a small fire (some dry kindling, and work up with larger pieces), then add limbs and brush from the pile to keep it under my control at all times. And there will be less soil heat that way too, but won't grow anything immediately unless you turn it over (i.e. plow).

Neighbors burned their barn down two weeks ago, when they were doing their annual brush burning. Didn't notice a burning ember drift off about 75 yards to their large dairy barn full of hay. Bad fire day for them.
 
   / Burn Piles for Beginners #4  
I prefer to burn in the rain myself. Besides lowering the unintentional fire danger, the rain also helps clean out the smoke IMO. I have 2 schools of thought.

1. Build a monster pile and set it on fire. This has a litle less physical work, but once it is lit, you don't have any real control of how it burns. I have had piles literally explode and heat damage nearby trees that I thought were plenty far away from how large I THOUGHT the fire would get. The last one I had do that had a pretty impressive 40' colum of flame. I inherited several massive piles on my property when I bought it. Some burnt well, and some were a twisted mass of large wood that had too much spacing to get to burn. Those I had to rip up and cut up with chainsaw and front end loader to get compact enough to dry out and burn. A large pile can also have problems with getting enough O2 and not combust completely(lots of smoke).

2. Pull from a stack/pile and insert into the burning pile as needed. This allows you to control the fuel the fire has access to. That means, that you can shut down this operation when ever you feel the need to, like it is getting dark and your monster pile is still cooking away and will require you to tend it till sometime past midnight. Leaving a fire unattended can net you a pretty big fine in most areas... It is nice to be able to shut it down when YOU want to. This method also allows you to place the fuel where it will burn the hottest and combust the cleanest.

I prefer method 2. And in almost all cases, it has proven to ultimately be faster and less hassle. Another thing that usually messes people up is the lack of oxygen and never really getting a good hot core fire. Flooding your neighborhood with smoke can make you really unpopular really fast, and is probably the biggest complaint about people burning. A good hot fire will have almost no smoke. I almost always use a blower now when I burn. It dosn't take much air to turn a smokey fire into a foaring blastfurnace with almost no smoke. It also burns a lot faster with added O2. The blower I use is not very large, in fact it is pretty tiny. It consists of a 12VDC 4" box fan from radio shack, a 12V 7AH gell cell battery salvaged from an old UPS, and a 3' length of 4" metal duct pipe. The blower/fan is attached to the end of the pipe with 4 little pieces of angle attached to the duct and blower mount holes with small nuts and bolts. The fully charged gellcell will run this thing for 24+ hours. The pipe is placed in near the center of the fire and blows a steady stream of fresh air into the middle of the fire. This makes a blast furnace effect that pushes the fuel quickly above the gas point with little smoke.

Good luck
 
   / Burn Piles for Beginners #5  
Depends on your area. You may need a permit, and may only be able to burn on particular days.

Out here, I need a permit(no big deal, easy to get at the fire station, and good for a few years). Before I burn, I have to call the "Burn" number to see if it is a permissive burn day.

The other thing is, we can only burn yard debri(ie leaves, branches, yard trimmings). And the pile is not suppossed to be bigger than 4' high and 4' across.

As Woodchuckie mentioned, a good fire will leave a streile spot on the ground for a while.
 
   / Burn Piles for Beginners #6  
Wait until the winter solstice. December 21st, check the local exact time.

Get a bunch of friends together, light the pile and celebrate the earth's swing around the sun. I do this every year and invite friends if the solstice time is at a reasonable time of day.

Two years ago it was at 6:04 AM, 30 below with the wind chill and I'll be damned if 27 people didn't showed up.

I know it's goofy but it was fun and a bit spiritual.

Regards
Bert
 
   / Burn Piles for Beginners #7  
My preference was to wait for a light rain and then set the pile on fire. Don't use gasoline as a fire starter, I've done it, won't do it again. I use a road flare, always worked good for me.
 
   / Burn Piles for Beginners #8  
There was a thread a while back on the best way to start the wood burning. The consensus, and my recommendation, is a propane weedburner. You can get it cheap at HF.
 
   / Burn Piles for Beginners #9  
In my experience it is much easier to start a small fire and add to it than to try to get a big pile to burn. Start a fire with newspaper and sticks. Then build it up. I have used my tractor to unstack burn piles that would not burn and build a fire as it wa burning.
 
   / Burn Piles for Beginners #10  
Don't do this. I used my brand spanking new Kubota to push trees and branches into a HUGE fire pile when I got too far in and the fire started roaring then I stalled it.

I had seconds to decide - try and start it of jump I only had time for one or the other.

I loved my tractor so I hit the key and flew out of the pile burning towards me.
 

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