Rotary Cutter Bush hog differences?

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lancew

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I am shopping for a 5' rotary cutter, new or used, and I am wondering about one main differnce in many of them. Some of the mowers have a solid flat-stock type support bracing on them and some just use a piece of chain to lift and support the rear of the mower. It seems to me that the chain units bounce more during transport, which I would think applies some undesired forces on the rear link componentry...? What are the pros and cons of each design? Which is better? I have used both, only a few times though, and both have worked for me...
 
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If I was to buy another one,would look those ones with chains over,mines got solid steel,and I put a chain on instead of solid top link in order to let rear of mower float up and down some,thats what I think those ones with chain let it do.

As far as bouncing wouldn't think that would be much of an issue.
 
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i have a woods 72 with bars, i can't get it to lift high or float. if i get it to float right i can't lift it more than a foot off the ground. i have an old ford with chains it works great. my dad wants me to cut my bars and weld in about 2-3 feet of chain. i would if it was not under warranty. next year the torch goes to the bars.
 
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Had a Woods 5' and also a 6'. The bars would warp if I accidentally backed up against a hill, so I removed the bars and added chains. It worked great, and I saw no downside to the chains. In fact, they saved weight and were not bouncy or noisy at all.

I have a 6' Squealer now, and it has the flat bars. They have a pivot that allows the linkage to compress. No problem backing up against hills or levees, so I'm leaving them on.
 
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I look at it like this.. the chain ones are more forgiving over uneven ground.. however colapse completely if the front of the tractor were to rear up.. and thus offer -0- help with stalling a backflip.

the semi-rigid connections have much less play and thus much less range of movement over rough ground.. but also will -help- stall a backflip if it starts to occur (at least up to the mechanical limits of the materials.. etc.. )

soundguy
 
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I have light and heavy duty 5' cutters..............and I'd never have one of the chained top support type.



First, they are categorically lighter-built and less robust than a traditiional all-metal attachment arrangement. By design they are not as strong. Most modern cutters of this type have a built-in movement of the top link than allows for a good degree of movement of the cutter over the terrrain.


Unless you are cutting manecured, golf course type of terrain.........by the real shredder and get into it.
 
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I look at it like this.. the chain ones are more forgiving over uneven ground.. however colapse completely if the front of the tractor were to rear up.. and thus offer -0- help with stalling a backflip.

the semi-rigid connections have much less play and thus much less range of movement over rough ground.. but also will -help- stall a backflip if it starts to occur (at least up to the mechanical limits of the materials.. etc.. )

soundguy
Backflips!!!!! not to compare this to the oil bath filters sound, I and different bodily functions do know when steep is too steep!!!:D My little JD403 has the collapse-able linkage and it works O.K. I believe that chains would be more forgiving. Course, for serious hogg'n the 403 is on the light construction side. I done in some fair sized june berry bushes 2" or so, the 403 protested much. No damage but I will use the chain saw to cut them big'uns if the need arises again.
 
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Backflips!!!!! not to compare this to the oil bath filters sound, I and different bodily functions do know when steep is too steep!!!:D My little JD403 has the collapse-able linkage and it works O.K. I believe that chains would be more forgiving. Course, for serious hogg'n the 403 is on the light construction side. I done in some fair sized june berry bushes 2" or so, the 403 protested much. No damage but I will use the chain saw to cut them big'uns if the need arises again.

I'm not sure where oil bath filters came up in this conversation????

soundguy
 
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I have a Woods 6' with the metal linkage. I back it up banks all the time without any problem. The 3ph arms float up as needed which lets the cutter go up without wrecking the linkage.
 
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Mine has the flex link, works great once I un welded it after the previous owners mistake.
 

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Thanks guys. I will make sure that what I buy has a flex pivot if it has rigid supports. From what little I have used both types, I also kind of feel that the chained units float a little better (at least on the smaller size of cutters like I'm looking at). The chained units that I've looked at do seem to be the lighter-duty units though...

Thanks again for the help. I'm headed out to the Woods dealer this morning...
 
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I don't know for sure what the units with chains are like. I did want to mention that for most of the work 95% of the people here will use a brush hog for you don't need to get the heavy duty models. FWJ may be one of the exceptions to that ;). My 6' Woods Heritage model is on the lighter side of things and can chew up amazingly big stuff without flinching.
 
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Mine has the flex link, works great once I un welded it after the previous owners mistake.

OMG! There is no safety guard over your PTO shaft. The safety storm troopers are going to get you...... :)
 
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Mine has the flex link, works great once I un welded it after the previous owners mistake.


Same set up here, mine was never welded though. Works like a charm.

Mark
 
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OMG! There is no safety guard over your PTO shaft. The safety storm troopers are going to get you...... :)


Now I've done it! Here come the feds!! Let's see...never had one, uhhh I used it to make a funnel one day? Uhhh don't care! :)

I read back through and didn't see anyone mention NO chains or NO top link. I've tried it and that works fine to...no top link. Floats nice, just stay away from a place where you might need to pick it up to get out of trouble.
 
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Same set up here, mine was never welded though. Works like a charm.

Mark


On my little tractor the link is a little taller than I like, but it hasn't made the list to try and lower it.

Rob
 
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I have a Woods Brush Bull 72". It is considered medium duty, but is very substantial. It has an adjustable internal baffle that I moved to front and added the front and rear chains where it had heavy rubber before. I think that the rubber shields were very adequate. I included picts
 

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