BX1850 or BX2350

[LBrown59]

What is the price of a BX1850, without a loader?
I'm looking at one just to use a smaller tiller on the back. Any ideas?

My dealer had them on sale a while back $6945 tractor only.
The MMM was extra 48'' $1450 or 54'' $1650.

I bought 2 BX1500s no mowers or attachments
Pd $6300 for the new one and $4525 for the used one.

Also got 0ne 60'' front blade $1500 rear 48''tiller $1100 and 48'' MMM.$1450.

I don't count the attachments as part of the price of the tractors because they can be used on all 3 of my BXs.

 

[LBrown59]

1*If you get the 1850 without the loader valve, you should save about $600. Keep in mind that, if you try to trade in or privately sell that tractor some day, the value will be affected, possibly by more than $600.

2*If you are going to use the 1850 strictly for mowing, you can keep the loader valve and remove the joy stick temporarily (until you decide to sell the tractor or get a loader).

3*If you're going to use the tractor for 3 point work only and you have no loader, you should consider some counter weight on the front (i.e. front weight bracket).

1*If you don't get a loader or front blade there won't be any loader valve and joy stick.
This item is not a part of the tractor.
3*I don't have a loader or blade on the BX1500 but I do have a 48''mmm.
Would the mower help as a counter weight for 3 point attachments?

 

[LBrown59]

1*I am in the same boat as you, But if you are going to be using yard tractor with occasional use of a loader and other implements than get the 1850, but if you are going to use the loader and other implements quite a bit than I would step up to the 2350.

Thats what I plan to do. I know the 1850 can do the job I need,
*I have borrowed my nieghbors bx1500 several times,

*Like my BX23 the 2 BX1500s constantly amaze me as to what they can do.
1*I got all this covered with BX1500 and BX23.

 

[LBrown59]

If you price one at a dealer and don't/ won't need a loader, insist on them getting you a unit w/o the joystick control- it is much cheaper! I purchased my BX1850 from Emerich Sales in NY,
***they had one on the lot this way.

***They should as a joystick is part a of a loader or front blade but isn't part of the tractor.

 

[montelatici]

"1*If you don't get a loader or front blade there won't be any loader valve and joy stick."


My brand new BX-1850 I just bought has the front hydraulics and joystick but no front implement. The manual is for a BX-1850 with front valve and joystick. A different manual than the one for the BX-1850 w/o these items.

 

[Tom_H]

My understanding is that the joystick comes with the tractor, regardless of whether you have a front implement, unless you special order the tractor without it, in which case you can get the tractor with no joystick.

Don't know absolutely, but I have heard that a number of times.

 

[KeithInSpace]

...isn't part of the tractor.

On the last generation, you had a choice. Most of the time, a 3-way (and stick, obviously) was simply mounted to the FEL and went away with the FEL. Some folks had the optional 4-way mounted to the tractor, but this was rare...I've never seen one.

On the current generation, the valve and stick is mounted to the tractor, not the FEL. You need to specifically DELETE the valve assembly from your tractor for a cost savings of ~$600, according to another thread. But then you'd need to add it back if you add any hydraulic implement to the tractor.

Personally, I would not consider purchasing one of these tractors without the valve. Simply too limiting in the future. And I suspect it would kill resale...even more so than if you simply didn't have a FEL...you don't even have the ABILITY to add a FEL without getting another very expensive item.

 

[LBrown59]

On the last generation, you had a choice. Most of the time, a 3-way (and stick, obviously) was simply mounted to the FEL and went away with the FEL. Some folks had the optional 4-way mounted to the tractor, but this was rare...I've never seen one.

On the current generation, the valve and stick is mounted to the tractor, not the FEL. You need to specifically DELETE the valve assembly from your tractor for a cost savings of ~$600, according to another thread. But then you'd need to add it back if you add any hydraulic implement to the tractor.

Personally, I would not consider purchasing one of these tractors without the valve. Simply too limiting in the future. And I suspect it would kill resale...even more so than if you simply didn't have a FEL...you don't even have the ABILITY to add a FEL without getting another very expensive item.

Here is how it worked on the 2 BX1500 tractors i purchased
The new one don't have the valve.
I didn't order it with a valve and have it deleted.
I just took it the way it came and that was with out the valve.

The used one had a 48'' MMM but no valve , loader , tiller or front blade.
I added a new 48'' tiller and a new 60'' hydraulic lift and angle front blade to it.
I have $1500 in the front blade which includes the cost of the valve and joy stick.
The joy stick and valve was part of the cost of the blade not the tractor.

 

[KeithInSpace]

...The joy stick and valve was part of the cost of the blade not the tractor.

My point exactly. Kubota has chosen to make the valve body and joystick intrinsic to every tractor, regardless of the attachment.

In OUR generation of tractor (last generation) the joystick and valve assembly generally came with the FEL, forcing you to get another valve assembly with a front blade, if you wanted it so equipped.

In the CURRENT generation, the valve body comes standard with every tractor so you can SAVE the ~$500 or whatever you paid for the joystick and valve body to accompany your front blade.

For my theory on the benefit to prove out, though, the price of a current generation blade attachment would have to be closer to $1,000 instead of the $1,500 you paid.

Right?

 

[LBrown59]

My point exactly. Kubota has chosen to make the valve body and joystick intrinsic to every tractor, regardless of the attachment.

In OUR generation of tractor (last generation) the joystick and valve assembly generally came with the FEL, forcing you to get another valve assembly with a front blade, if you wanted it so equipped.

In the CURRENT generation, the valve body comes standard with every tractor so you can SAVE the ~$500 or whatever you paid for the joystick and valve body to accompany your front blade.

For my theory on the benefit to prove out, though, the price of a current generation blade attachment would have to be closer to $1,000 instead of the $1,500 you paid.
Right?

Right the valve and joy stick made up about $470 of the $1500.
I guess what it all boils down to is if you need the stick and valve and don't have it yer gonna pay about 500 bucks to get it .
Makes no difference what it comes on tractor or blade/loader.