BX22 TBL eval after 20 hours..........

gsxr1100 · Apr 17, 2003

Well after having my BX22 TBL with mower for 20 hours I have found the following things I like and dislike. Again these are thing that are great and can be improved.

LIKES

1. I like the fast loader speed
2. The backhoe is GREAT! /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
3. Tractor is built like a tank
4. Very easy to do 95% of the maintance
5. mower comes off easy and heavy duty
6. engine is nice and built "Kubota" tough
7. Kubota supplies a cap of the rear PTO..simple and NICE
8. Mower deck is heavy duty and the covers above the
spindles are nice
9. ROPS is easy to fold down (thank god)
10. It has (2) gas filter WOW and easy to get to
11. Can press the foot lever to move tractor without being on
it. I LOVE THAT. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
12. Backhoe is kind of easy to take off without hitting painted
surface
13. The financing is GREAT!!!!!!

Dislikes are:

1. The levers for the attachments tend to be hit when getting
off the tractor
2. The painted surfaces on the edge by your feet wear fast
3. Loader bucket seems very light or not a very think material
4. Backhoe rubber feet $160!!!!! WHAT..are you nuts? /forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif
5. No glow plug heater light for auto shut off.
6. the part on the loader where the hose connect to
the "stick"control is a total mess to work on. Could be
designed a little better.
7. Rear Hyd fill is the most DUMBEST spot.
8. front lights suck when the loader is on
9. have to be in "N" to start (maybe can start in gear with
Brake on?)

Don't get me wrong I love the machine and there is no "perfect tractor" since everyone is different.

1 OH, where can I buy the rubber cheaper or is there so
to "retro fix"?
2. Also where can I buy the loader teeth?
3. Lastly were can I view pictures of "hooks" that I can weld or bolt to that loader? Some one had them of this site but I can't find them;

sandyc · Apr 17, 2003

gsxr1100....The hydro fill pipe is not the easiest. I am getting a flexible filler type deal. They use them on car transmissions. NAPA or Wal-Mart have them.

Watch moving the machine by pusing the pedal while off the machine.....you might end up with a surprise!

My dealer didn't even ask if I wanted a chain hook on the bucket. He welded it on and painted it orange. It is great for using a short chain for pulling small stumps and trees. Also for dragging not so small stumps from the woods.

You are right about the paint...but I guess that comes with the territory.

Enjoy the machine.

Bird · Apr 17, 2003

( Backhoe rubber feet $160 )

Someone help my old fadin' memory, but didn't someone recently post a message with pictures about making his own rubber feet from an old tire and bolting them on? I seem to recall something like that that looked pretty good.

Anonymous Poster · Apr 17, 2003

gsxr1100,
Agreed with you on most points as they relate to the bx tractor and loader (I have a bx2200). Some things though raise some concerns.................
Moving the machine while off of it may end up creating an open air addition to your garage. Same goes for starting in gear ( if you jumped the safety switch or had it fail). I tend to want to start or move the machine while standing beside it. It just seems so much easier than getting on and off. I keep stopping myself so that I don't get into that habit.
That one time that you slip, trip, or fall could be an O'GOSH that hopefully you can tell your grandkids about. I nail the brake and take it out of gear before I get off, and don't re-engage the hst until I'm back in the seat. After I forgot to pop the brake off and took off with it on I realized the torque these little puppies have and got a little more cautious. Same goes for stopping on hills. Nail the brake pedal, lock it, hst in neutral, (fel down if you have it on) and then get off. Very little chance of unintended movement with it out of gear and the fel down . Please don't think I'm getting on your case, I'm not trying to be a nag, but it only takes one time, 'ya know??
I've rambled on enough, but I have only one thing to add to the dislike list. The brake lock pedal rattles and gets pretty annoying. I keep finding my foot resting against it to shut it up. Other than that, it is one AWESOME little machine /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif.
FYI, the dealer should have the tooth bar. Costs around $275-$300.
Just my .02.
happy tractoring,
DaveL

Anonymous Poster · Apr 17, 2003

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5. No glow plug heater light for auto shut off.
)

Sorry, I don't quite understand this one. /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif I thought the glow plugs were on only when the key was in the preheat position and there is a dash light to indicate this. Or have I totally missed the point.... /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif

gsxr1100 · Apr 18, 2003

rbarker- On my old deere and Ford (both early) 90's had glow plug indicator light that turned off when it was ok to start. I just feel that the BX does not have that and some users (maybe) myself will leve them on for alonger time that you need. It was not hurt anything but it makes them burn out sooner.

gsxr1100 · Apr 18, 2003

DaveL - You are correct on the raddle. It does it only sometimes (like the metal hood to).

Out of the very few things that "I" need to adjust to I LOVE the machine and if save much time and work. Next is Amsoil engine oil and gear fluid. I used them in my last tractors and the internals were great and clean. I will still use the Kubota SDT fluid though

frank_f15 · Apr 18, 2003

seems like you are basically pleased with your purchase, i won't address all your dislikes, but the can;t start in grear is what they call SAVING YOUR LIFE. ALL MACHINES SHOULD NEVER EVER START WHEN THEY ARE IN GEAR,
all standard front lights suck, with the loader on. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Anonymous Poster · Apr 18, 2003

( rbarker- On my old deere and Ford (both early) 90's had glow plug indicator light that turned off when it was ok to start. )

Ah HA! I understand now! Thanks for clearing that up! This is my first diesel ever or I might have known that.

PondKeeper · Apr 19, 2003

Here is what my LA302 loader sets up like with the reinforcement and three hooks.

gsxr1100 · Apr 19, 2003

PondKeeper---Thank that is just what I am looking for /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

gsxr1100 · Apr 19, 2003

frank_f15 this saefty feature is good but I just wondered if there was a way to start IN GEAR with PARKING brake on.

Plus the dislikes are because I need to just spend more time on the machine getting used to it! Good reason for more time I guess, I just need to let the wife know. She already thinks I spend WAY to much time outside now.

Jeff396 · Apr 19, 2003

My B7500 will start with the tractor in gear as long as the clutch is depressed and the pto is in neutral. Does the BX series not work the same way? If not, why did they make them different? /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Jeff

Rick Jay · Apr 19, 2003

gsxr1100

( ...I just need to let the wife know. She already thinks I spend WAY to much time outside now. )

She thinks you spend too much time outside now ?...Wait until you start your tractor in gear and it rolls over you 'cause you weren't in the seat and disabled the safety features. Possible dirt-nap time.

I'll echo the concerns of some others, learn to live with the safety features where-ever possible, don't defeat them.

TBN is a growing community...we'd like to keep it that way. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

~Rick

equipman · Apr 19, 2003

Jeff396
The BX doesn't have a clutch, it has a hydraulic independent PTO. The PTO lever has to be in the off position for the engine to start though.
Lewis

gsxr1100 · Apr 21, 2003

Rick Jay

I understand what you are saying but I just wanted to know if I could start my BX22 in gear with brake on. I like most safety features but companies go way "over board" for the nuts who do the weirdest things then sue. Like the **** who trimmed his bushes with a walk behind mower! Yup, he pick up the mower and used it to mow the hedges....

It is almost as bad as the killer who kills people and sue the gun manufacture! Can you say...nut

If I shot someone with my Glock or Bushmaster I would never sue a gun company. As in the guy who played "Jaws" in 007 said, Guns do not kill people, people kill people /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

I figure it is my tractor and I can enable or disabled any feature I see fit. I would not make a big deal out of it. Just a "grey" area

techman · Apr 21, 2003

gsxr1100:

The reason thay they don't allow is goes like this: when the clutch is disengaged, there is no chance of drive power getting through as you start. With a hydrostatic, if the control pedal were pressed, the brake is in a contest to see if the hydro drive or brake wins. In low range, unless you push really hard on the brake pedal, the hydro will win and it will move. So a brake interlock would not provide the required lawyer-proof security. So neutral is the safest bet. My old tractor would allow you to start if the hydro lever was centered. It had a detent position so that you knew you were centered, but that would be hard with the pedal control.

paul

Anonymous Poster · Apr 21, 2003

gsxr1100,
now that you have the bota, your going to have to paint the gxsr orange to match! Isn't it amazing how completely opposite the high revving, low torque cycle engines are from the low revving, high torque diesels? But your gixxer probably makes 130hp where as your bota makes what...22hp? BTW I'm a cycle buff too, I've got the new Triumph TT. Have fun with both and be careful moving that tractor around while not actually on it.
-D

gsxr1100 · Apr 29, 2003

I only move the tractor (when not complety on it) when disconnecting the backhoe.

Oh, My gsxr makes around that amount of HP. I wanted a turbo to make around 250 HP but the wife says no /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif She says I am not allowed to go over 200 mph. I had a ninja and crashed it because some old lady was not looking when turning. So that bike was gone.