bx2200 will not start

udrugby · Sep 23, 2003

/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif my tractor started normaly, then after running about a minute started chugging an a white thick exhaust was comming from the exhaust pipe. I turned the tractor off, now it will not start (cranks fine). Seems like it is not getting any fuel. Tractor has 106 hours on it and maintained. My guess is bad fuel or water in the fuel. I'm new to the diesels. Any suggestions?

Junkman · Sep 23, 2003

From reading other posts, it sounds like the small plastic filters that catch the water in the fuel have filled. After reading what some others have gone through with these filters, I am going to be keeping spares on the shelf for just this reason. I am still looking for a water separator that is small enough to fit onto the BX tractor..... All that I have found so far are huge. I would suggest that you go to the dealer and buy a new pair of filters and install them before going any further. I always start with the most obvious and easiest before I get too involved with solving the problem.

JerryG · Sep 23, 2003

Junkman,
Check over on the Kioti forum. If I remember right they had a small one that was really inexpensive.

GregW · Sep 24, 2003

Sorry to hear of your trouble, but you have water in your fuel, same thing happened on my BX 22. You will need to get under the tractor and disconnect the fuel line and drain the tank. Replace fuel filters, there are two.Refill tank with fresh fuel, I would add fuel conditioner such as power service brand to the tank. Bleed fuel lines. Attempt to start tractor, If you got the water all out it will crank, If not you will have to follow the drain/replace filter/flush/bleed procedure again. I had to replace the filters and drain tank three times to get it to run right.
The good news is, if there is any, is that have not permently harmed you tractor if you get the water out quickly.

Good luck.
Greg

upgw · Sep 24, 2003

Any chance you filled her up with gasoline? Easy mistake to make (I did the reverse on a Ford Pinto once, that was quite entertaining...)

- Patrick

slowzuki · Sep 24, 2003

Almost certain it is water! The other guys have got it right! If where you live is moist or has up down temps, you can get a pile of condensation in the fuel tank. It can help to always keep it nearly full of fuel to reduce the volume of air (and therefore moisture) in the tank.

Ken

gsxr1100 · Sep 24, 2003

Good post here guys. Since I have a BX22 and I had a question. Why does not Kubota put a water seperator on it? My old JD 455 had one and that was a lawn tractor.

Well I think it is time to get a Dahl Compact Fuel Filter/Water Separator and install it after the 2nd plastic filter (close to engine).

Junkman · Sep 24, 2003

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I would install it closest to the tank to remove the maximum amount of water and other contaminants. That way, the disposable filters will stay cleaner and if anything does get by, they will pick it up before it makes it to the injector pump....

Dahl Fuel Filter Information Page.........

surfran · Sep 24, 2003

Will the water be primarily from the fuel being added or from the tank itself? Would the water separating funnel that I had see on here work if you kept the tank full all the time? $170 for one of these separators is quite a bit.

This is my first Diesel and haven't went through a winter yet so I am kinda curious. Also can you add something like dry gas like you add to cars?

Please enlighten as Winter is probably here in NY in about 2 weeks if it's anything like last year.........in fact I think it just ended about 3 weeks ago, at least I don't remember Spring or Summer this year.

Thanks,

slowzuki · Sep 24, 2003

Buy fresh fuel during the winter at truck stops or areas where a lot of fuel goes through. They will switch to winter grade fuel in the fall that has additives to control gelling of the parafins (waxes) in diesel.

As far as water, generally the underground tanks are fine but if you store on site, especially big tanks that spend time partially full, you can be in trouble.

Water separator is a good investment, cheaper than filters, most places will have a universal model for 20-30$ with a see through bowl.

I honestly don't know about additives for water in diesel, they have fuel winterizing additives for summer fuel being used in the winter.

Most of my experience with water in the fuel has been with gas equipment, I've emptied tanks of tractors that have sat for a couple of years and there will be a litre of water and a litre of varnished fuel. It is amazing condensation can fill the thing up! We siphon from the bottom of the tank until fuel comes out at the start of the mowing season.