BX25 FEL bucket creep

   / BX25 FEL bucket creep #1  

Robs2544

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McDonald, PA
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Kubota BX25D
Hi all,

Another issue with my BX25 lately. The bucket will not stay up unless I keep pressure on the controls to keep it up. I have NO leaks anywhere, connected and reconnected all fittings. Everything else operates as designed. If I let the bucket go to full dump position it seems as if it does not want to raise, takes a good bit of time, like it's almost stuck.

I've talk to some locals, they think it could be a multitude of things:
Bad cylinder seals
cracked fitting
bad control valve

I'm leaning towards the cylinder, but it's not leaking. Can a cylinder be bad but not leaking?

Thanks in advance!
 
   / BX25 FEL bucket creep #2  
Hold the bucket control lever to the left for 20 sec. or so ( so it's by passing relief) then feel the end of each cylinder at the top if 1 is warmer than the other it will be the one with a bad seal on the ram.
 
   / BX25 FEL bucket creep #3  
Is the lever for the 3pt in the up position? On my BX2230, if at idle, and 3 pt lever is still up, it does not have enough hydraulics to raise the fel. Release 3 pt lever, fel works as it should. Jon
 
   / BX25 FEL bucket creep #4  
My vote is bad cylinder seals, yes they can leak (or actually bypass) internally with no external leakage.
 
   / BX25 FEL bucket creep #5  
This forum amazes me. Like I always say, "if someone on TBN doesn't know the answer, you didn't really didn't have a question in the first place".
 
   / BX25 FEL bucket creep #6  
Hold the bucket control lever to the left for 20 sec. or so ( so it's by passing relief) then feel the end of each cylinder at the top if 1 is warmer than the other it will be the one with a bad seal on the ram.

Hey ! That is a great tip. Never heard that one before but it makes all kinds of sense. By the way, like Kenny, I'm betting the OP has a bad seal in one of the cylinders.
 
   / BX25 FEL bucket creep #7  
I had that happen on my machine and used the method mentioned the temp was not much dif. but it was noticeably warmer and when I took it apart the seal was obviously damage when being install from new.
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   / BX25 FEL bucket creep #8  
Or reverse your hoses so left/right is raise/ lower the boom and forward/reverse operates the bucket. If the issue stays in the bucket curl circuit, its a cylinder issue; if the issue moves to the boom circuit, its in the valve.
 
   / BX25 FEL bucket creep #9  
Or reverse your hoses so left/right is raise/ lower the boom and forward/reverse operates the bucket. If the issue stays in the bucket curl circuit, its a cylinder issue; if the issue moves to the boom circuit, its in the valve.

Holy cow! Another great tip ! One of those you sit here and say "Why didn't I think of that???"
 
   / BX25 FEL bucket creep #10  
Holy cow! Another great tip ! One of those you sit here and say "Why didn't I think of that???"

I`ve done that, it works great to figure out where the problem really is. But being i`m old now, i didnt think of it until i saw someone else write it in here...lol. This IS an awesome forum... alotta really smart guys in here. Though i`ve not broke down yet, thank you to all of you, that spend your time in here helping others out in here. Without some of you guys GREAT knowledge, we would likely be down alot longer, or without a fix. So i just want to say, thank you, for what you ALL do...!
 

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