Bye, Bye Branson???

   / Bye, Bye Branson??? #11  
I thought the discussion was about Branson, not what brand you bought?

We have a Branson dealer just a couple of miles away...I've only seen one or two tractors on their lot in all the times I've gone by. I think they'll order one for you, but they don't seem to keep inventory, and they don't look much like a service shop.
 
   / Bye, Bye Branson??? #12  
39% of boomers want to retire into a rural setting. Compared with a few years ago when the boomers where in their peak household spending (age 48) compact tractor sales are down by one third. Generation X, the latch-key kids, my generation, has just entered our peak spending years (ages 42 to 48), but we're a smaller generation and simply cannot maintain the level of consumerism of the larger boomer generation that proceeded us. The Echo Generation that follows Gen. X (the boomer's kids) is again a larger generation, but due to debt and average jobs paying 10% less than when Gen. X went to work, they are getting married and forming households later in life than either the Boomers or Gen. X generations did.

The engine that drives consumerism is marriage and family formation. Once married, young people suddenly realize that raising their kids in the city with all the action is a horrible place to raise kids, and so they become first time home buyers in the 'burbs. House purchases because a huge uptick in consumerism. Peak home spending is at age 42, and six years after that comes peak household spending as those couple fill up their 4,000 square foot house with junk.

Peak car buying is in the early sixties while peak net worth is one year after retirement. Peak drugstore spending takes place at age 73 end peak entry into assisted living is at age 82.

The single main driver of commodities is population growth but more and more western nations face a demographic cliff where there are more dyers than buyers. For this reason we've seen commodity prices generally fall as expanding demand has silently started to taper against rising production. Collapsing commodity prices hurt emerging nations first as emerging nations tend to be the largest exporters of commodities. Then we see producing nations economies become less robust as demand for their exported goods tapers off. We see this in Japan, Russia and now Germany today. China reports robust growth, but as their lagging stock market reveals, their growth has come from over-building their infrastructure, not from increased sales of goods and their own population is aging too.

Anyway, based on personal conjecture that peak compact tractor purchasing happens in people's 50s, all to say that I don't see room for expansion of total sales in the compact tractor market in the United States for another decade until the Echo Generation starts coming into their own.
 
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   / Bye, Bye Branson???
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Excellent points Eric!
 
   / Bye, Bye Branson??? #15  
If I were going to have more than one tractor I would buy all in one brand from a local dealer. I appreciate the consideration "good customers" receive.

I have bought two Kubotas (plus several implements) from the same local dealer. He invites himself for coffee every month or two. Almost always adjusts something at NO CHARGE and catches infant problems before I do. He also follows my posts here, although I have only mentioned dealer's name twice in 2,578 post.

OP: You seem to have a penchant for orphans. And that is fine. It is your money. But do you have a long term plan?


ERIC: #12 here is your best ever post.
 
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   / Bye, Bye Branson??? #17  
holy crap Eric, you really are an oracle! that was one of the most well thought out posts I've ever read on this forum. Tractorbynet has so many interesting posters, exploring so many ideas that are so helpful in my every day life, it is now must reading for me every day. you just never know what the heck is going to come up for discussion each day. I often find myself saying " Hmm, I never though of that." Eric's take on shriinking compact tractor sales is a prime example.
 
   / Bye, Bye Branson??? #18  
The Oracle, you an I have a common fan in the Economic world. Harry Dent has put this well into perspective in "The Demographic Cliff", I agree with most of what he says. Some say this is a pessimistic approach to spending or investing in current markets, but what he has predicted is making it's way here although slower than anticipated. Think QE. Good points, the under 100hp market has maintained a good industry this year due to cattle and milk prices.
 
   / Bye, Bye Branson??? #19  
The Oracle, you an I have a common fan in the Economic world. Harry Dent has put this well into perspective in "The Demographic Cliff", I agree with most of what he says. Some say this is a pessimistic approach to spending or investing in current markets, but what he has predicted is making it's way here although slower than anticipated. Think QE. Good points, the under 100hp market has maintained a good industry this year due to cattle and milk prices.

Dent's last book is fascinating, but clearly his timing is off for a pullback. Even so, at this moment only one major bank (French monster So-Gen) thinks that 2015 will see a major pullback in our markets and their reason is that Wall Street has never seen an eight-year bull run. That said, the trouble with being a bear is that it becomes silly expensive rolling over non-performing options if one is too early, not to mention the missed opportunity costs of remaining long! For me I look at trajectories and value while actively managing those assets, and so Dent's line of thinking becomes very interesting. One thing that most bears don't get is the ability of a large trading country that uses fractional reserve currency, is their central banks ability to manage interest rates well below expectations. Japan's interest rates have yet to pop. Our interest rates where supposed to pop, yet they did not which caused precious metals to crash in the last quarter of 2011.

Business Insider published Minack's work noting that it is increasingly hard to allow higher interest rates without the market crashing forcing the Fed to ease. While Deutsche bank has noted over the last few years everybody has over-estimated the interest rate.

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Anyway, the crowd thinks we'll see increasing interest rates, but I don't think we will see anything very high. Which is too bad because I own banks and REITs that would benefit from higher interest rates (counter-intuitively, banks make more money the higher the interest rate goes).

At this point I need to explain something that is not taught in schools, namely that the trajectory of markets is largely set by bond pricing which in turn effects the value of currency which is what everything gets priced in. Stick with me because I'm diving into the deep end:

1) Interest rates are a way of measuring the demand for money.

Low interest rates mean demand for money is low and demand for debt is high.
High interest rates mean that demand for money is high and demand for debt is low. For example: If my demand for your debt is low, you will need to pay me more to hold your debt in the form of higher interest rates. And why would you be willing to do so? Because demand for my money is high.

Hence,

High interest rates mean that demand for money is high and demand for debt is low.​

In other words, raising interest rates means that a currency is becoming more valuable and falling interest rates mean that a currency is becoming less valuable.

2) Devaluing a currency makes domestic goods and services produced or offered less expensive relative to other currencies.

We know a currency is devaluing when interest rates trend downward.
When currency is cheap relative to foreign currencies, our local economy tends to strengthen on increased exports and bolster domestic employment.​

In other words, during periods of economic weakness, a central bank will try to devalue its currency as a way to increase employment and increase domestic commerce.

3) When interest rates are zero, central bankers have few tools to effectively lower interest rates.

They can print money. Printing money can be literal printing of money which isn稚 very effective because less than 5% of our currency is in paper form.
They can lower the reserve capital requirements of banks, thereby multiplying the money supply available for lending.
Or they can devalue to money by purchasing debt in the currency they issue thereby effectively diluting money.​

Those central banks that have the ability to do so have all sought to devalue their currency. But devaluation is relative and as one central bank devalued its currency, that provided motivation for another central bank to devalue its currency. This has resulted in seven year boom of increased costs of commodities which are often priced in dollars. But the increased price in commodities isn't true inflation because people's incomes have not inflated. As a result, when commodity prices increased, there was demand destruction and commodities pricing was expected to fall unless demand remains elevated. Central bankers realized this and for this reason they never grew concerned about the increase in commodity pricing because they expected demand destruction and they were right.
 

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   / Bye, Bye Branson??? #20  
I looked at a Branson a few months ago and really liked the way it was built. I started to dig into them and found the dealer net work sucks. From what I found just about anyone who puts up the cash can become a dealer. No need to have any certified tech or just plain techs or have any kind of tractor background. Not the type of dealer I'd want to have to deal with. Granted they are not all this way but why would any company allow this type of dealer to sell their product is beyond me.
 

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