California

[300UGUY]

Kaiser Industries was in just about everything at one time... ship building, auto manufacturing, minerals, metals, aerospace, etc...

A very small after thought way back when was a Healthcare system for employees... fast forward and it is the engine that drives Kaiser Permanente.

Kaiser is still paying pensions to folks who worked in Willow Run Michigan, the last car produced was in 1953!! The Willow Run plant was built by Ford in the 40's to build B24 bombers. After Kaiser, it was bought by GM, to become transmission plant, until 2010, when it was closed. Part of it is being converted to a museum about the bomber days.

 

[California]

Kaiser Industries was in just about everything at one time... ship building, auto manufacturing, minerals, metals, aerospace, etc...

A very small after thought way back when was a Healthcare system for employees... fast forward and it is the engine that drives Kaiser Permanente.

Kaiser Permanente has been cited as a model for various national health care plans. They have managed to control costs across large populations by an emphasis on preventive medicine - annual checkups, immunizations, pre and post-natal care etc, based on the premise its less expensive for them and kinder to the customer to identify problems hopefully long before they require urgent care. Doctors are salaried so this lessens the incentive to propose costly and drastic treatments. Records are now computerized so it doesn't matter which office you visit. While some individuals can pay more for medical care and arguably get better care, Kaiser's methods serve as a model for controlling the cost of healthcare across large populations. This is of interest to employers who pay the health care for their employees, and can be an example of how to administer taxpayer-paid health care where the emphasis is on controlling cost.

 

[ultrarunner]

Kaiser has come a long way from the 60's and 70's where people often were ashamed to admit they had Kaiser...

I tried to get it as an option where I work and it would have saved a few bucks... Admin was dead set against it.

 

[jerrybob]

Nevada County is making it harder on legal growers so they are either moving to other counties and taking their money with them or going underground. The county just lost a measure this last election that would made the changes that made it harder more permanent. I think it's all pretty stupid and they're just putting off the day when it's legal all over the country again. For pity sake, it's a weed so it was really stupid to make it illegal in the first place must less the feds scheduling it a 1 right up there with the really nasty stuff. Lots of silly and stupid politics involved in this one. One of these days idiots are gonna figure out that prohibition DOES NOT work and it never will. I thought we'd proved that one already with no less than two constitutional amendments. The rest is just so much political rhetoric and so much BS just to give the political types something to talk about. It's like trying to stamp out prostitution and sex, it's never gonna happen.

Legal here now........we have growing operations and retail stores within minutes......seems to be working well.....has created quite a few jobs.

 

[jerrybob]

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[jerrybob]

Kaiser has come a long way from the 60's and 70's where people often were ashamed to admit they had Kaiser...

I tried to get it as an option where I work and it would have saved a few bucks... Admin was dead set against it.

Kaiser killed my best friend back in the 90's due to a terrible mis diagnosis. His nephew was an attorney....took the case and won a big multi million dollar lawsuit for his wife. Tragic event!

 

[dickfoster]

From:
North Beach tenant's rent increased from $1,8 to $8, a month - SFGate

A North Beach tenant recently received notice from his landlord that the rent on his North Beach apartment was going up from $1,800 a month to $8,000, ABC 13 reports.

Last year, Bernal Heights tenant Deb Follingstad made headlines when she posted a notice from her landlord on Facebook stating that her rent is jumping from $2,145 to $8,900.

I don't know why anyone would want to live in that cesspool anyway much less pay that kind of money. Of course if they don't have it already the landlords are begging for rent control and then they'll piss and moan like some kind of wounded animal. All while they brought it on themselves. It's stupid, really, really, stupid to piss in your own soup like that.

 

[dickfoster]

Legal here now........we have growing operations and retail stores within minutes......seems to be working well.....has created quite a few jobs.

It'll soon be legal everywhere and the gubberment should never have messed with it in the first place. To my way of thinking they have no right to tell people what to do, what to take, what to eat and not eat etc. etc. etc. If a junkie what's to kill himself, fine let him, it's nobody else's business. As long as he knows the downsides up front, fine, sit down and shut up. Why should we pay and just create more crime in the process? It's idiotic, that much has been proven beyond a doubt already. People need to mind their own business and let others be as long as their toes aren't being stepped on.

 

[downsizingnow48]

When we bought a place in Mendocino County a while ago I studied the last several years of building permits to get an idea what was going on in construction. About half were to replace existing electrical panels with 300 amp units. That is to run back yard (or bedroom) growing operations. It is very lucrative to get a medical prescription then grow a lot more plants than allowed. I have family in Nevada County and Calaveras County where growing has also grown rapidly. From what I have seen many growers are generally opposed to full legalization because it would reduce their profits.

 

[dickfoster]

When we bought a place in Mendocino County a while ago I studied the last several years of building permits to get an idea what was going on in construction. About half were to replace existing electrical panels with 300 amp units. That is to run back yard (or bedroom) growing operations. It is very lucrative to get a medical prescription then grow a lot more plants than allowed. I have family in Nevada County and Calaveras County where growing has also grown rapidly. From what I have seen many growers are generally opposed to full legalization because it would reduce their profits.

The only way to kill a black market is to flood it. If you want to stop the crime associated with illegal drugs, remove the profit incentive by legalizing it. It's simple and this country learned that lesson with the 21st amendment. So why in **** are we repeating the same mistake? Do you think the clowns will ever win the so called war on drugs, really? Just like before they've not only lost the tax revenue from the liquor in that day but they have to pay massive sums to enforce the idiotic law then pay again the warehouse the offenders in jail again at taxpayer expense. Clearly it's insane to keep plugging away at this kind of foolishness simply because it sounds good and some idiotic self serving politician wants to get up on a stump and get votes from the not so bright voters.