Call me crazy, Worldcom

   / Call me crazy, Worldcom #1  

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Call me crazy but this morning I bought just over 1600 shares of Worldcom stocks. It cost me $275 plus brokerage fees. It was 17 cents a share. If I lose, I lose $275 but it has a lot of room to go up when they get their act together. Their Chapter 11 request has been approved and they are now starting the process of restructuring. This ought to be fun!
 
   / Call me crazy, Worldcom #2  
I hate to say it.... Whats the saying " a fool and his money are soon parted"...... Hope it works in your favor this time! This is coming from from a guy who is way in the hole on these "sure thing" deals! Good luck!
 
   / Call me crazy, Worldcom #3  
yep, i wanted to do the same thing when it was 7cents a share, but my better half over-ruled me..from what i understand, when they do the chapter 11 thing, you lose??
they don't seem to be trading the stock since the chapter 11 filing anyway??? good luck, i sure hope it works out.
heehaw
 
   / Call me crazy, Worldcom #4  
Like my partner at work says - "It's hard tellin', not knowin'."

We took our kids' savings fund (our money, not their allowance /w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif) of just under $2000 and were going to put it into Tyco. They were at the time doubling and splitting about every 6-12 months. A friend had done the same, and really boosted his small chunk of change quickly. We went to a broker for the first time, and he asked us about risk (we said we could afford to lose it), and suggested a software stock, at about $13.00 per share. A year or two later, it was worth 39 cents, and he had been fired and was the focus of an investigation for artificially inflating the value (he and another were buying tons of shares). We should have gone with our gut, which would have been Tyco, and then pulled out after the first split.

From now on, if we want to diddle with single stocks, it will be companies we admire or products we use. I guess Intel not withstanding, Harley stocks have given pretty good performance over the years. I might buy New Holland, Kubota, or Deere (the Harley of tractors), too. But now is the time to buy, which needs to be better communicated. The biggest single effect on the market since all us newbies got in via 401K's and stuff is emotion, IMHO.
 
   / Call me crazy, Worldcom #5  
OK, I'll call you crazy. Your money is gone. Bondholdres, not stockholders will end up with what is left of the company...here is a copy of an internal WCOM email from the president, wherein, among other things, he says the chances of existing holders of getting anything for their shares is basically nil:

>>
---- Original Message ----
Today is a difficult day for all of us at WorldCom. As you are
aware from listening to the news and reading the papers WorldCom
has filed for reorganization under Chapter 11 of the U.S.
Bankruptcy Code. After reviewing all the options available to
us, the board of directors decided this option offered the best
way to provide for our company's future. The filing applies
only to WorldCom's U.S. operations.

As part of this process, we have obtained an agreement to
arrange up to $2 billion in debtor-in-possession (DIP) financing
to support our operations. We have already secured a commitment
of $750 million of this amount - which we believe is sufficient
to carry us through our current needs.

I regret that we are in this position. We fought hard to avoid
it. Even before we discovered the accounting issues leading to
our announcement, WorldCom had a significant debt problem. From
the first day I took over as CEO, I have been talking to our
lenders about what we could do to restructure our debt. This
debt had become the enemy of our company. It threatened our
viability and drove our stock price down to the one-dollar
range. Then, the need to restate our financials essentially
closed the capital markets to us. These problems, along with
accelerated payment demands from our vendors, forced us to seek
the protection of Chapter 11.

Taking this action, then, was the best way to help the greatest
number of people - particularly our customers and you, our
employees. And it was the only way to ensure our company's
future.

Like you, I've been through the range of emotions during the
last couple of months - shock, anger and embarrassment when we
discovered the accounting problems; fear over the consequences;
and concern for you and your families. I apologize for what has
happened. I can only tell you I wasn't there for the past
indiscretions, but I will commit to being there for the future --
and I hope you will be by my side. We have created one of the
most successful companies in American history, and we shouldn't
lose sight of our accomplishments.

While we seek reorganization under the protection of the
bankruptcy court, we will continue to operate and manage our
business in the normal course. And we will work with our
creditors and with the court to restructure our debt and our
operations -- enabling us to emerge from Chapter 11 as a much
stronger, healthier company.

I cannot tell you exactly how long this process will take. My
hope and my plan is for it to be a brief time. It is likely,
however, to extend at least through the first quarter of next
year. One of the primary hurdles to restructuring our finances
and emerging from Chapter 11 is completion of audited financial
statements.

This will be a challenging time. We will likely operate on
budgets that are smaller than we're used to. In addition, we
will be looking to sell off our non-core businesses. It will be
difficult, but I believe it will be worth it because we have the
opportunity to emerge from this process a company that still
boasts the best set of assets in the telecom industry, but
without our current debt burden.

To make that happen, I need your help. Only through your
understanding of what's going on and only through your continued
dedicated work can we maintain customer confidence. If you are
confident about our company - and you have every reason to be -
please help us spread that message to our customers, and help us
attract new customers. Only with this link in the chain - you -
will WorldCom be able to move forward.

The new management team is committed to using this
reorganization period to regain our company's focus, strength
and industry leadership. Other companies have taken this route
and succeeded - Continental Airlines, Texaco, Federated
Department Stores and Southland Corporation, to name a few. We
intend to do the same.

Now, I know you have many questions. I can answer just a few in
this note:

--Compensation for other than senior management employees will
continue based on the same criteria we have always used. One of
the reasons we filed for protection is because it provides the
best alternative for preserving jobs for our employees.

--There is no plan to change existing benefits.

--Chapter 11 does not necessarily mean more layoffs. We did, as
you are aware, announce a layoff of many employees last month as
a result of our financial condition - unrelated to the
accounting issues. We will continue to review operating plans to
see what's in the company's best interest, but I certainly hope
to retain the vast majority of our employees.

--Unfortunately, it is highly unlikely that investors will
receive any value for their WorldCom Group or MCI Group stock.

I want to assure you that we are taking every step to determine
precisely who is responsible for the accounting improprieties
that ultimately led to the Chapter 11 filing. We continue to
cooperate fully with all governmental investigations. We have
launched a rigorous independent investigation of our own, led by
William R. McLucas. And, we have added two individuals of
unimpeachable integrity to our board of directors - Nicholas
Katzenbach, former Attorney General of the United States, and
Dennis Beresford, former Chairman of the Financial Standards
Accounting Board (FASB) - to oversee the McLucas Investigation
and ensure these improprieties never recur. It is my intention
that our company once again becomes synonymous with business
practices of the highest integrity and ethical standards.

As I said, this is not a path we wanted to take - but I think
you can see that it is the right thing to do for the future of
the company we have all helped to build. With integrity,
communication and focus, we will ultimately benefit from this
period.

Thank you, as always, for your continued support and excellent
work.


John Sidgmore


----
WorldCom, Inc. Corporate Employee Communications
 
   / Call me crazy, Worldcom #6  
<font color=blue>Deere (the Harley of tractors)</font color=blue>

It's that noisy and vibrates that much?

Sorry, Mark, just couldn't resist. /w3tcompact/icons/laugh.gif

Going with stock in a company you know and respect is certainly a lot better than taking the advice of someone who makes his nickle by buying and selling for you ... his alliegence is to his wallet ... not yours.
When it comes to investments ... I tend to want to maximize my gains so I look at the whole picture. The stocks I like are those that don't jump up and down and that pay quarterly dividends. Paying out requires that the company makes money and keeps the stockHOLDERS in mind ... not the buyers and sellers. It's surprising (to me) how many people fail to consider the value of dividends when they compare stocks. For example, Microsoft is pretty good pricewise ... which matters if you're planning on selling for a profit .... but you got nothing until you sell because they've never paid a dividend (except to Bill).
JMHO

pete ... who's still got a ear-to-ear grin on his GL1800A /w3tcompact/icons/grin.gif
 
   / Call me crazy, Worldcom #7  
I won't call you crazy. WorldCom will most likely make it out of their dilemma. They do have $30B in debt, however they have over $100B in assets, and a huge customer base.

2 years from now, you will probably say to yourself, "Why didn't I buy 10,000 shares of WorldCom instead."
 
   / Call me crazy, Worldcom #8  
I don't know if you're crazy or not, but they sure seem to be pushing for new income fast. I got 3 calls last night from MCI! /w3tcompact/icons/mad.gif/w3tcompact/icons/frown.gif/w3tcompact/icons/hmm.gif
 
   / Call me crazy, Worldcom #9  
Last I read they had $100B in assets "on the books", but the current value of those assets was in reality only about $3-$4Billion...if I can find a link for this I'll support it.
 
   / Call me crazy, Worldcom #10  
Brad, MCI calls here more than every other telemarketer in the world combined. I've tried being nice, I've tried being obnoxious, I've cussed them, asked them to never call again, explained that I wouldn't do business with MCI as long as one other company exists, etc. and now when they call, I just sit here without saying a word and let them talk until they give up and hang up. And they've been calling regularly for many years. They've got to be the most obnoxious telemarketers that have ever existed.
 

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