Can a Kubota L2501 move a round bale?

   / Can a Kubota L2501 move a round bale?
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Jeff 9366 has it all covered in Post#2 . The L2501 ought to be fine for everything you mention EXCEPT carting around half ton round bales. As Jeff says with 2 cows on a 7 acre place there is no apparent reason to mess with bales more than twice the size you should be handling with it. Of course like building pole barns "they are never big enough." Depending on what your total overall picture is, there could (?) be reasons to go for a larger tractor. Other factors may include the size space where you will store it, what all implements you might end up with, etc. I consider the dealer to be a very large factor in what tractor you "should" buy. Over time you will have cause to utilize the dealer and depend on them. My personal view is that the Orange ones have the best reliability record. Red (MF), Green (JD) and Blue (NH) are not far behind. Many good machines are out there.

Thank you. Only been looking at Orange, Red and Green thus far.
 
   / Can a Kubota L2501 move a round bale? #32  
Do you wish you would have purchased larger?

Don't think small, medium, large, THINK WEIGHT.

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Within subcompact and compact tractor categories, bare tractor weight must increase 50% before you notice a significant tractor capability increase. It takes a 100% increase in bare tractor weight to elicit MY-OH-MY!

Shop your weight range within tractor brands. Budget will eliminate some choices. Collect a dealer brochure for each tractor model in your weight range. I spreadsheet tractor and implement specs, often a revealing exercise. I have a column for cost per pound.

Most tractors under 3,000 pounds bare weight operate in residential or hobby farm applications on one to ten flat acres. Subcompact and compact tractors under 3,000 pounds will enter a residential garage with typical 84" door height.
 
   / Can a Kubota L2501 move a round bale? #33  
Round bales weight from 800 to 1,200 pounds dry. In Texas most round bales are probably towards 1,200 pounds.

The L2501 weighs 2,700 pounds, bare tractor. You cannot lift 1,200 pound round bales safely with a tractor that weighs less than 4,000 pounds bare, 5,000 pounds bare safer.

We frequently move 5x4 round bales with a B7500, we use a 3 point spear and take it slowly, but it works fine.
The L3830 works better, but when it is still baling, my wife runs the bales back with the B7500.

To answer the question posed by the thread title based on specs at Tractordata.com - Yes, on the 3pt.
BUT - If you are only going to have 2 cows and they are grazing on 3 acres how much hay do you need? Would round bales "go bad"?
Yep, our B7500 will handle MOST of our 5x4 round bales happily. There are a few that are problematic, but it is generally fine.

Aaron Z
 
   / Can a Kubota L2501 move a round bale? #34  
The OP didn't say what size round bales. The 5x6 bales that came off of our Blue Stem field were close to 1500 pounds. I know because I pulled the trailer across the scales at the feed store.

Now I can weigh the bale myself. This one is 5x5 and 1132 pounds:

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Here is a handy chart:

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   / Can a Kubota L2501 move a round bale? #35  
I had a L3200, same loader & frame as the L2501. I helped a friend move a small barn full of "1,200lbs" big square bales. I got the job done, but it was sketchy as ****. If I recall the loader is rated to 1,200lbs at the pins. Add in a couple hundred lbs for the forks & a decent bit for the load being well in front of the pins & I was well past the OEM rating.

I had a 5' rotary cutter on the back & a small pile of 50lbs bags of stuff on the back of that. Loaded R4 tires too. Lots of ballast & it was located a lot further back than normal for better performance. It still really wasnt enough. The back end was really light & pretty much came off the ground at least once.

The lack if ballast is guaranteed to be the weak point on the economy L 2 & 3 thousands, possibly the "frame". My new L4060 on the other hand is rock solid at max loader lift with just loaded tires (I keep ballast on the 3pt pther than that one time). So hydraulics & loader design are the weak spot there. Probably closely followed by the front axle, but that's just a guess. Everything has a weak spot, so that's not a complaint against either machine. Just s matter of where that weak spot is. Hopefully it's a power or ballast weak spot, not a structural issue.

I was lucky if I could lift a bale high enough to stack it on another bale. It depended on how lucky we were with the weight of a given bale.

In short, a L2501 might be able to lift your bales. But it wont be able to do it safely. You can probably get away with an occasional bale, as I did. But plan on getting a bigger machine if you plan on moving big square or round bales.
Found a photo of moving those bales with the L3200. That's likely as high as I could lift that bale. I still pucker up remember doing that.

I couldn't use my 3pt bale spear (cheap impulse garage sale score I really dont need or use much) as it would just tear out the top of the bale. A round bale wouldnt have that problem as they dont have the vertical flakes that are really weak against vertical pressure.IMG_8896-1.jpeg
 
   / Can a Kubota L2501 move a round bale? #36  
I move smaller round bales with my L3901 with weighted tires and extra weight on back. The guy I get hay from makes them smaller 600-900 lbs. I am not trying to stack them. Just take of trailer and move to barn. Works great
 
   / Can a Kubota L2501 move a round bale?
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Found a photo of moving those bales with the L3200. That's likely as high as I could lift that bale. I still pucker up remember doing that.

I couldn't use my 3pt bale spear (cheap impulse garage sale score I really dont need or use much) as it would just tear out the top of the bale. A round bale wouldnt have that problem as they dont have the vertical flakes that are really weak against vertical pressure.View attachment 570497

Great picture! Thanks
 
   / Can a Kubota L2501 move a round bale? #38  
I have an l2501 and I am able to pick up 4x5 round bales with the front loader with no issues at all. That痴 with strapping the bale to the bucket. I知 getting a ssqa bale spear soon.
 

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