Cattle

[two_bit_score]

That is STRICTLY due to the American Angus Association's efforts since 1978 when they began the Marketing ploy of 'Certified Angus Beef'. They got together and pushed the 'thought' that Angus beef was the 'premium beef'. Now, you can't go into a restaurant without seeing 'Angus steaks' on the menu. It really has been one of the best STEALTH marketing campaigns with one of the biggest outcomes of which I know.

The funny thing is... you basically only have to have 51% Angus... to obtain the certification. Although, I think they have instituted some carcass characteristics which need to be met now. Which is funny, because a lot of those characteristics are likely to change, with the changing thought of how we eat. Specifically, smaller steak sizes are becoming much more popular. And I think one of the required characteristics for 'Angus' was to have a relatively large 'Ribeye'.

Your description is better than mine. The PR campaign worked well!

To the point that an all black cow going through the ring will generally bring more than another regardless of certification.

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[kenmac]

What one of the old cattle guys told me is they have a guy that just walks around black cows and says.. this one is Angus, this one is not LOL.

I too many now get a few young steers when I finish my fences completed. Get them in the spring, let them eat grass until about october, and take them to the stock yard for sale. .

If I were to get a cow to keep, it would be a Jersey. I think they are a nice looking cow

I will be calling the local USDA office soon. They tell me they will use your tax dollars to cross fence my property for cows, as long as I have perimeter fence up

 

[M5farms]

Just what we need. Another welfare farmer.

 

[jaxs]

Just what we need. Another welfare farmer.

If he follows some of the advice given here,he will probably need some welfare.

 

[kenmac]

If he follows some of the advice given here,he will probably need some welfare.

:laughing:

 

[kenmac]

Just what we need. Another welfare farmer.

If they pay any on my fencing, will be pennies compared to what the government pays out to the big boys !

 

[robbyr]

One of my late father in law’s favorite sayings: what cows don’t tear up, they will sHe-ite on.

There’s no way we make back what we spend. One of my favorite sayings is We have more cows than grass. For us it is a hobby. Most of ours are like pets and I can walk out in pasture and pet on most of them.

One thing that caught my attention was 25-30 dollar round bales. I have not seen that in quite a while. Last several years the big rolls around here ( 5 1/2 x 6 ) were going for $50-60. This year it never quit raining so guys couldn’t get in the field to cut and bale. I had to give $85 per roll and that is the 4 x 5 smaller bales. And was told it was going up. For us it would probably be cheaper to pay the taxes without the tax exemption.

 

[two_bit_score]

Just what we need. Another welfare farmer.

If he follows some of the advice given here,he will probably need some welfare.

:laughing:

I think we need a emoji for spitting coffee!

 

[two_bit_score]

If they pay any on my fencing, will be pennies compared to what the government pays out to the big boys !

Be sure to let us know how big that check is. :laughing:

 

[M5farms]

I just can not sleep at night taking money from the government . There are plenty of programs available and after the hurricane and I have had several calls on it but all they care about is getting their hooks in you and you have to allow inspections and they tell you exactly what they want done and how to spend the tax payers money. NO THANK YOU. everything I have, I have paid for or am paying for. The government interference is why farmers are struggle to make ends meet. Its no different than food stamps in my opinion.

 

[NTG]

Just what we need. Another welfare farmer.

Hey, as much money as I pay in taxes every year, I'll take anything they're willing to give me. Especially since they think SS will be bankrupt by the time I'm old enough to get it. They stole it from me the first time and then they stole it out of the account they were supposed to pay it back from..... Yeah.... give me some of that welfare.

 

[NTG]

all they care about is getting their hooks in you and you have to allow inspections and they tell you exactly what they want done and how to spend the tax payers money. NO THANK YOU.

You do have a very valid point there.... good reason not to ever take it. Kind of like borrowing money from the mafia.....

 

[NTG]

Kenmac, you might check out the extension service web site in your state. I think their primary focus is supporting farmers and helping people get started in farming. Alabama & Georgia's web sites both have a TON of information about getting going, growing, selling, etc.... Agriculture: Business Management | Alabama Cooperative Extension System - ACES.edu I've thought about having a state forester come out to my place for free to give me advice on my trees, but I have to admit, I'm a little leery of what their recommendations would be. As M5farms said, once they get their hooks in you..... I wouldn't say I'm paranoid, but the last thing I need is the govt to come out here and say, oh you can't cut these, or you're going to have to spray that, etc.... once you show up on the radar, you know? I'm still on the fence. Anyway, the web sites have a lot of good information and you could check out pretty much any one in your region and they'll have info pertaining to you.

 

[M5farms]

Hey, as much money as I pay in taxes every year, I'll take anything they're willing to give me. Especially since they think SS will be bankrupt by the time I'm old enough to get it. They stole it from me the first time and then they stole it out of the account they were supposed to pay it back from..... Yeah.... give me some of that welfare.

I just try to think of it as Charity. I agree with the premise of its my money but personal standards and integrity weigh heavy on me. When its all over I want my kids and grandkids to know that doing everything on your own and not being dependent on anyone is a trait not many posses in today's gimme world. That's why our country in in the mess it is in.

 

[kenmac]

Kenmac, you might check out the extension service web site in your state. I think their primary focus is supporting farmers and helping people get started in farming. Alabama & Georgia's web sites both have a TON of information about getting going, growing, selling, etc.... Agriculture: Business Management | Alabama Cooperative Extension System - ACES.edu I've thought about having a state forester come out to my place for free to give me advice on my trees, but I have to admit, I'm a little leery of what their recommendations would be. As M5farms said, once they get their hooks in you..... I wouldn't say I'm paranoid, but the last thing I need is the govt to come out here and say, oh you can't cut these, or you're going to have to spray that, etc.... once you show up on the radar, you know? I'm still on the fence. Anyway, the web sites have a lot of good information and you could check out pretty much any one in your region and they'll have info pertaining to you.

That may be who I was thinking of instead of the USDA. \
I'm going to try to meet with them to see what they have available.

If they have a program for all those corn growers to provide corn for ethanol, then I have no issues with them fencing in my property.

Back in the 80's, there were 8 dairy's in my area. The government bought them all out

 

[kenmac]

I just try to think of it as Charity. I agree with the premise of its my money but personal standards and integrity weigh heavy on me. When its all over I want my kids and grandkids to know that doing everything on your own and not being dependent on anyone is a trait not many posses in today's gimme world. That's why our country in in the mess it is in.

Like you say, It's your money.. Are you going to turn down that SS check ?
You know, It does come from the government

The illegals have no issues spending your government check

 

[M5farms]

Like you say, It's your money.. Are you going to turn down that SS check ?
You know, It does come from the government

The illegals have no issues spending your government check

I would be happy if I could forgo everything I have ever paid and never pay in another dime as the program was designed to be voluntary. I do not plan on there being any money available in 15yrs when I am 65 . At that point I will evaluate where I am and the total I have paid in and make a decision from there.

 

[kenmac]

I would be happy if I could forgo everything I have ever paid and never pay in another dime as the program was designed to be voluntary. I do not plan on there being any money available in 15yrs when I am 65 . At that point I will evaluate where I am and the total I have paid in and make a decision from there.

You don't have to wait until 65. You can take at 62 if you wish.
Just wondering if you will accept it since it will be a government hand out /charity ?

A SS pay out is no different than any other government pay out.
SS was put there to be paid out, just like the other government pay outs

If you would rather see them give money to all these other countries, illegals, etc, instead of taking your share is fine with me.
If you don't take what you have paid, Some other country, or illegal, etc, sure will

You can bet I'll take my SS in a couple years.

As far as it being charity. They took my money from me without my consent. If they give my money back to me, how is it charity ?

 

[M5farms]

all very true, Some greedy ******* will have their hand out for something that is not theirs. that Does not make it right . If more people stood up to the wrongs that have been placed on us things would change but that would mean they don't get free stuff.

 

[kenmac]

all very true, Some greedy ******* will have their hand out for something that is not theirs. that Does not make it right . If more people stood up to the wrongs that have been placed on us things would change but that would mean they don't get free stuff.

So, If I can get a chance to get some of my own money back. How is that taking charity ?
Had the government not stolen my money, and I got free money for fencing. It would be charity

If they happen to pay for some fencing. It won't be charity, or free money. It will be with money they have stolen from me since I was about 14-15 yrs old